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Why the Alliance between Stalin and Hitler Must Never Be Forgotten
FEE ^ | July 23, 2023 | Benjamin Williams

Posted on 07/24/2023 10:54:52 AM PDT by grundle

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To: grundle

Marxism, National Socialism, Communism, Socialism, Democrat Party USA, Democratic Socialism. All the same turd with no clean end no matter how many sprinkles one applies. It is all evil


21 posted on 07/24/2023 1:30:35 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: dfwgator

Of that 20 million a good amount came from the Soviet side itself. A Russian soldier at the front had two sets of guns aimed at him. One from the Nazis and another from the Commisars behind him should he ever decide to retreat or do something deemed anti soviet.


22 posted on 07/24/2023 2:19:52 PM PDT by xp38
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A lot of the cannon fodder came from the Central Asian Republics.


23 posted on 07/24/2023 2:21:16 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: grundle

Stalin wanted communism in Russia. Trotsky wanted to go worldwide. Stalin killed Trotsky.
Stalin’s Red Army was in no way on a par with the Nazi army and he knew it. I think he was signing a side deal, hoping to give the nazis a reason to stop short in Poland and not continue on into the USSR. In the deal he got the Polish back parts of the Tsars’s Russia where they had been for hundreds of years before WWI.

His side deal with the nazis didn’t protect him from the nazi invasion 22 months later.

And don’t forget at that moment, Russia was in a bitter war in the east with Japan. He knew he couldn’t fight them both in 1939. He barely managed to post 1941.


24 posted on 07/24/2023 2:35:42 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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“The Communists were the biggest isolationists of all in this country, before Hitler attacked the Soviet Union.”

And they changed like a switch was flipped the day after Hitler invaded the USSR.
(Incidentally, two days after that invasion is when western Ukes started their first mass murder of the Jews in Lviv.)


25 posted on 07/24/2023 2:38:55 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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Interesting about Khrushchev. When they murdered JFK, Khrushchev was removed from office a year later.

The hard liner deep state in both countries moved on leaders they perceived as too soft within a year. And we wind up with Brezhnev and LBJ.


26 posted on 07/24/2023 2:43:29 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: z3n

And Obama was a Kenyan.


27 posted on 07/24/2023 2:43:51 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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Stalin was actually a ‘National Socialist’, his geopolitical goals were no different than that of the Czars, and he forced all people in the Soviet Union to speak Russian and despite his Georgian heritage, favored Russian culture over all others, as opposed to Lenin, who despised all things Russian.


28 posted on 07/24/2023 2:53:19 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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One of the reasons Japan had no heart to fight the Soviets was that they got their butt kicked in 1939 at the Battle of Khalkhin Go.

The General who led the Red Army at that battle: Georgy Zhukov.


29 posted on 07/24/2023 2:55:27 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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His side deal with the nazis didn’t protect him from the nazi invasion 22 months later.

He didn't count on France falling in six weeks. And he also should have known that Hitler had no desire to occupy Britain, but merely to neutralize it, which he had pretty much achieved.

30 posted on 07/24/2023 2:57:38 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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And Hess flew to England in his Me-110 just a month before Operation Barbarossa to negotiate a separate peace with British nobles. Of course his mission was misguided speculation and no British nobility would have ever agreed to such terms.

That is why he was kept in Spandau Prison alone and incommunicado until he died in 1987. One completely monitored and censored letter per year to his wife. No war discussion allowed.

And it is just a -coincidence- that the one time the Russians voted for his release in later years, the British government vetoed it. The Brits didn’t want him talking about the invitations and welcomes he had.


31 posted on 07/24/2023 4:05:01 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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The New York Times and FDR and others also did not report on the Jewish people and millions of others being murdered in the concentration camps and by other means.

FTA: At the same time, the Soviet authorities kept the Jewish population uninformed about the ongoing Nazi atrocities just across the border, maintaining a deliberate silence that enabled the Holocaust. As part of the non-aggression pact, Soviet organs did not report the genocidal massacres conducted by the Nazis between 1939 and 1941. Those aforementioned anti-Nazi films were no longer being produced. Soviet newspapers like Pravda scarcely even used the word “fascist” from 1939 to 1941.


32 posted on 07/24/2023 6:22:32 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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Stalin was more than happy to let Hitler take care of his Jewish Problem.


33 posted on 07/24/2023 6:23:15 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Soviet-German collaboration predated Hitler by a decade, beginning with the 1922 Treaty of Rapallo and included economic agreements, military-technical cooperation and a 10 year non-aggression pact.


34 posted on 07/27/2023 9:37:23 AM PDT by skepsel ("A cat is more intelligent than people believe, and can be taught any crime", Mark Twain.)
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