Posted on 11/19/2023 6:55:06 AM PST by RandFan
I have personally carefully watched Excess Deaths from late 2020 onwards.
For those who do not know, Excess Deaths are an All Causes death count that exceeds the average of 2016-2019 for each month of the year — with appropriate adjustment upwards for population gain. The numbers I saw would be excess — or not excess — depending on age.
Go Get The Data. Every state I have looked at (certainly not all, I believed the national tabulators) showed EDs beginning when the virus reached that state early 2020.
Most important is the age grouping. I will tell you what I found but you can ignore it and go get the data. It is out there. You don’t need to go looking for someone else to tell you what it says.
1) There have been no Excess Deaths in the US age 0 up to 45 in 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023. The young did not die excessively, and this is so pre vax and post vax. There is no died suddenly crap. The young are not dying any more often than they did pre virus.
2) The old DID die excessively. Their death counts far exceeded what would be expected from 2020 onwards. The rise and fall on the All Causes death curves align precisely with Covid attributed deaths over the relevant months.
3) The young are not dying today excessively. The 85+ group is not either. But somewhat oddly, even today, there are EDs among 70-85. Looks like about 80 per day nationally. These counts align with the residual virus deaths nationwide. It’s surprising that the 85+ people have returned to 0 EDs but the slightly younger group has not.
17,000,000? That’s all? Bill Gates and Wuhan gonna have to up their game.
I’m not sold on this but if it were true it would dwarf the number of “dumbass redneck GOP” that refused to get the vax.
Just where insurance company CEOs say deaths have gone up 40% since the clot shots?
With only a few "scientific" explanations:
https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/121/497/945/original/d0b7064c81d5b644.jpg
Hey Dingbat, let me know of the extensive peer-reviewed controlled trials for each and every one of these alternative explanations for the clot-shot deaths.
By the way, dunk your head into a septic tank and hold your breath while we wait for confirmation.
These trolls are vying for their Call Center bonus. 😂
I like Malone.
The only two people I know who got Covid had all the shots and boosters. One is a friend who works as a caregiver, got Moderna shots. First time she got covid, she was very sick, second time not very sick.
And just this weekend, my daughter’s best friend, a good little liberal (horrors!) with tons of money and a great home came down with Covid. I had dinner at her house a few weeks ago and she was aghast when I told her my MD advised against shots and that the CEO of Pfizer got Covid.
Re: 11 - Agreed.
It’s ignorance or willful ignorance. The end result is the same.
IBTZ
Your propaganda is showing again.
Rancourt ain’t no pseudoscientist and he’s delivered all the goods on the data, relying only on government death records, you fraud!
Age 40-64 had some mild elevation in Excess Deaths in the virus years. They aligned with Covid surges. That group’s worst surge of EDs was week 37 of 2021, as Delta arrived. 5000 deaths per day that week beyond 2019’s numbers.
They have read 0 since Covid has faded.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm The procedure is scroll way down to a series of selection buttons. Click weekly deaths by age. Then click just below that Update Dashboard. Scroll down a few more lines to the age specific graphs.
The blue line for 45-64 is 2023. The curve below 0 at the end is always there because death counts take a few weeks to trickle in from states for tabulation. Prior to that, it aligns with 2019.
These folks are spared by the virus and vax.
Not according to the insurance companies.
Who can go broke from getting the statistics wrong.
Unlike a government crab, who, let’s face it, could surf pr0n on their work computer all day and nobody at work would care.
You’re acting like the CDC has a shred of credibility left.
They don’t.
The CDC is a mere tabulator in the matter of EDs.
You don’t have to believe them. Do a search for Excess Deaths for each individual state and get the raw numbers there. Then do your own tabulation.
The link I gave you had the raw data. You can download it and compare it to the states. I compared it to a handful of states. The numbers were not bogus.
I have not seen a report from all insurance companies examining every age cohort in every single state. I have heard of one insurance company in Indiana that had surprising data, but I have not seen any indication it was combined with other insurance companies or other states, nor did I see any audit of it by independent groups. Until that is done, it’s not valid data. It’s certainly not worth spending time on when all the states make the raw data available.
“Not according to the insurance companies.”
Are you referring to the good doctor’s unsourced scribbles?
Again, the vague, dishonest, slimy character assassination.
“Not according to the insurance companies.”
Which companies? What data?
Don’t stump them with data. I don’t think they can comprehend that their narrative doesn’t fit with the facts.
If the numbers are what “they” are saying they are…the cemeteries would be full and the funeral homes would be operating 24x7 for months on end.
Those things are not happening.
Thanks for throwing some reason into the conversation.
The deaths are just the deaths. The numbers Owen references are not “Covid Deaths.” These could be reviewed through a bunch of sources.
Some of the numbers bandied about for a single cohort are higher by a couple of magnitudes than the total expected deaths in a year. THAT would be noticeable in the streets and cemeteries.
The whole “Insurance company” thing refers to one alleged comment by one guy from one fairly insignificant insurance company.
I guess people can dismiss the CDC as “the deep state.” But it is more reliable and “checkable” than the comment from an obscure employee from an obscure insurance company who presented zero data.
I understand this does not fit the narrative that people want to believe. But in reality it changes nothing. The anger during the pandemic had to do with government overreach, not statistics. I think we can ALL agree on that.
I’m sure you’ve read and dismissed them before, troll.
The CEO of the Indiana insurance company.
“The CEO of the Indiana insurance company.”
October 2021 data. Per you, anything Nov 2021 or earlier is out of date.
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