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Gen Z employee ignites a FURIOUS debate after telling their new boss they couldn't attend an 8AM meeting because they 'had a workout class' - prompting outrage from older workers... so, who do YOU think is right?
Daily Mail UK ^ | 14:52 EST, 1 February 2024 | By KELSI KARRULI

Posted on 02/01/2024 12:29:09 PM PST by Red Badger

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To: Alberta's Child

It has nothing to do with being the boss or being the employee.

And, yes — in my work, I AM the boss.


You have a contradictory position there.

If you have a good long term client that insists on meeting at 4am, will you be there or not?


161 posted on 02/02/2024 7:55:13 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
If you have a good long term client that insists on meeting at 4am, will you be there or not?

Yes.

And that would be true if I am: (1) the boss, or (2) an employee who has a signed agreement that says I work from 8:00-5:00 every day.

162 posted on 02/02/2024 7:57:50 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Leaning Right

On the other hand, a GREAT manager I had once called a 3 hour meeting for Friday at 2:00PM, specifying it would be until end of workday. He then whipped out a really brief agenda regarding one issue that mattered, we had a 15 minute discussion, and then he gave us the rest of the afternoon off with explicit instructions to NOT do anything more the rest of the day. Actually he ran *every* meeting like the Indian IT Geek he was before becoming manager- just what was actually needed to be presented, BRIEF discussions, and done in less time than allotted; every bit as productive as the multi-hour marathons so beloved by ivy league MBAs who couldn’t write ‘HELLO WORLD’ in VBA.


163 posted on 02/02/2024 8:00:08 AM PST by Republican in occupied CA (We had enough government in 1789)
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To: mass55th

It sounds like it wasn’t during work hours


164 posted on 02/02/2024 8:03:54 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: Alberta's Child

Again, you don’t have a signed agreement with your best client to meet at certain hours, why are you there?

An employees is personal services incorporated. His boss is his only client.

You have a choice, so does the employee.


165 posted on 02/02/2024 8:05:28 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Good points and so true; corporate culture is so often a mismash and compromise. The best functioning entities are at least clear and consistent.

I mean if you are working at a fiercely competitive start-up and you’re cool with 80 hour weeks because you want to be wildly successful that’s fine, wrong company for a family man just looking for a paycheck and security and time off for the kid’s ball games.

The sad things happen when the manager or employee is out of sync with the culture. My most fun gig was a place just doing production; knew what was expected of me and could do it well with 40% effort, lots of time off given for community goodwill projects (which was counted as advertising), half as much as I could have made elsewhere, but 1/10th the stress and enough money for my frugal lifestyle and we’d have barbeques and group picnics and everyone knew everyone else’s family... A go-getter would have been miserable, those of us who had done the 80 hour week thing and nearly died from it relished it.


166 posted on 02/02/2024 8:08:43 AM PST by Republican in occupied CA (We had enough government in 1789)
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To: AppyPappy
"It sounds like it wasn’t during work hours"

Well then, what was he doing in the Capitol Building? That's a secure area. It's not a lounge for people to hang out after their work day is over, or a rendezvous site for lovers. Makes you wonder what other kind of crap goes on there after hours, other than RATS getting Capitol Hill Police officers to search Republican offices.

167 posted on 02/02/2024 1:05:43 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

“Well then, what was he doing in the Capitol Building?”

Are you sure you really want to know?

https://nypost.com/2024/02/01/news/capitol-cops-refuse-to-file-charges-in-congressional-sex-tape-scandal/


168 posted on 02/02/2024 2:05:09 PM PST by Republican in occupied CA (We had enough government in 1789)
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To: Bayard

I was called on the carpet because my company discovered I had not taken my time off for several years. They ordered me to use all my time off.


169 posted on 02/02/2024 2:24:58 PM PST by gitmo
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To: Republican in occupied CA
I already know he was let off without charges. AddyPappy said he conducted his butt sex video in the building after he was off work. I asked why the hell he was allowed to remain in the building once he was off the clock. Capitol Hill Police should be responsible for knowing who is in the building at all times. They are supposed to make rounds, and should be checking the sign-in logs, or time clocks for the day, to see who is still legitimately in the building. Somebody could be murdered, or die of a heart attack, and they wouldn't know until they found the body. If the police have no clue as to who is legitimately in the building, and who isn't, then what good are they?

I worked in NY State prisons for 25 years, which was just as secure a place as the Capitol Building is supposed to be. Non-employees had to sign in and go through a metal detector. And they had to sign out at the same place they signed in, before they could leave. And everyone, whether visitor or employee had to show ID on the way in everyday, and on the way out. Most employees had to use a time clock on the way in, and out. An officer would check the time clock to see if someone had forgotten to clock out before they went home. They would be called at home to make sure they were okay, and reminded to have the Chart Sergeant sign their time card, and verify their missed clock-out.

The majority of employees had to pick up keys and equipment before heading into the facility. The keys and equipment had to be kept track of throughout the day. And officers and brass that relieved an earlier shift, had to let the Arsenal officer know that they were now in possession of the equipment that had been handed over from the earlier shift.

When civilians left, they had to turn their keys and equipment in. If somebody left the facility, and accidentally forgot to turn in their keys, the Arsenal officers, who had to account for all the keys and equipment over a 24 hour period, would have to call an employee at home to make sure they had the missing key set, and be advised to make sure they returned it the next day. I accidentally went home with a pair of handcuffs one night after working 16 hours straight, and once I realized it, I immediately called the facility to let them know I had them, and would return them when I came into work the next day. Sometimes people had to drive all the way back to work to hand in keys they had walked out with. The last thing you wanted in a prison, was for a set of keys to go missing inside the facility. If that happened, and the keys couldn't be recovered, the locksmith would have to change the locks on all the doors that set of keys opened, and reissue new keys. If the Capitol Hill Police aren't required to know who is in the building at all times, then the building isn't secure. If they allow keys to the various offices within the Capitol Building, to be taken out of the building every day when people leave the workplace, then the building isn't secure.

170 posted on 02/02/2024 2:59:46 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

Now that we have the technology for it, we should have the iris recognition devices everywhere so that limits the use of physical keys to the locksmith and warden.


171 posted on 02/02/2024 3:07:06 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
"Now that we have the technology for it, we should have the iris recognition devices everywhere so that limits the use of physical keys to the locksmith and warden."

In the case of New York State, which is run by Democrats, they'd rather blow money on useless crap, than do anything that makes sense.

172 posted on 02/02/2024 3:13:06 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: gitmo

Looks bad for them if you never take them. Can be a liability if you claimed you weren’t allowed time off. So they decided they wanted to reduce liability.


173 posted on 02/02/2024 3:33:25 PM PST by Bayard
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