Posted on 02/01/2024 12:29:09 PM PST by Red Badger
The tradition at my employer is to not schedule 8am meetings anyway. Too much chance for someone to be late due to circumstances beyond their control. traffic etc.
That said, it’s pretty hard to skip a mandatory meeting.
As far as hours, I spent much of today planning business travel for the next few weeks. While I do try to make up the days, I’m working something like 15 weekend days by April.
This movie is one for the ages!
This was a salaried employee so you’re not necessarily working fixed hours all the time, you’re supposed to be available for work as needed. And you aren’t entitled to get paid for an extra hour either. Same as if you leave early they don’t dock your pay for that time either. That’s how being a salaried employee works.
That's why old-time Boomers like me are asked to stay a few more years - companies know these young kids just can't answer the bell day after day.
Not enough info to make an informed opinion.
Far too many variables to get amped up and go jumping in.
Your view is reasonable; but given that he’s a new hire, it would be a good idea to make a special effort here, even if he was told that he’d start at 9.
"The hide and seek for two grand a week" bunch. If they abused my boundaries, they would be called in at 11PM for an emergency. I would do it every weekend until they figured out I was just calling them in to do the jobs they dodged and ducked all week long. Then my work orders fell off the wait queue like a duck shoot.
You do your job and you own your weekends. You play lazy bum on me and you won't see your dog, kids, friends, or wife much.
My thoughts exactly.
Trying hiring a single mom. Can’t get to work until 9:30 because they have to drop off their kids and must leave by 2:30 to pick them up.
Well said.
Nice of your employer, but traffic can be solved by leaving home earlier.
It depends on normal work hours. If she works 9-5 then she’s not obligated to attend an 8 o’clock meeting. Would I attend the meeting? Heck ya, but I’d leave at 4 o’clock if I was an hourly employee. If I were a salaried then all bets are off and you get to the meeting no matter what.
My mom is 10 hours away in Asheville in assisted living. I drove 10 hours to see her recently & ended up staying 16 days in a hotel. It the same one I’ve been staying at for 2 years now. I’ve gotten to know the desk clerks really well. I was talking to one of them & they said, without a doubt, gen z were the absolute worst guests. She said they were rude, expected everything, & had an air of being above it all.
It really depends if they are salaried (and career track) or not.
The guy is just showing how he treats the job. I’ve had similar employees who would always be gone at 4:59 PM, even if we had a project holding us over, etc...
Those folks never lasted anyway, didn’t get bonuses, etc...
Regarding hourly hires - my friend runs a restaurant and always has to negotiate hours with his staff, particularly if he’s got a party-banquet which doesn’t always occur in hours staff usually are available.
We had a guy who worked for us who was like that. His job entailed a good deal of travel and he and his wife had three young kids. When covidiocy hit, he took full advantage and did virtually nothing. My job was similar to his and I truly never skipped a beat, even traveling to states that were technically closed. Although I wasn’t his manager, he reported to me. He quit about three days before we were going to fire him. On his last day, he expensed a $150 steak dinner.
Cheap cost to get rid of him.
Sounds like you’ve got a well-balanced view of it.
Reality is really going to hurt these kids. I keep being told that that world has to bend to the “new way”. I just laugh at them. You can’t explain things to them because they are unable to listen. Time to let them touch the proverbial hot stove and watch what happens.
My daughter’s work got a new manager in. He was going to “turn things around” at the big box store. He was going to put everyone on a rotating schedule for days (first week you have Sat. and Sun. off, next week you have Sun. and Mon. off, etc.) AND hours (some weeks working first shift, next week 2nd shift, etc.).
My daughter, along with most everyone else threatened to quit, so he didn’t go through with it. I told her it sounded like a prank being played on her - nobody would be THAT stupid.
She checked with the HR person (rather than just hearing it from other co-workers). Nope - that was the new manager’s plan!
The young girl told the boss she couldn’t make it that early, but was kind of evasive when asked why.
Turns out she works an early part-time shift at a second job from 4:00-8:00 AM a few miles away from the office, which gives her just enough time to change her clothes and travel to her primary job.
My friend convinced the boss that she should be commended for having a work ethic like that. Now they’re looking to get her into a training program for a higher position in the company so she doesn’t need the second job.
How about I don’t give a flying F
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