I'VE GOT A BONE TO PICK WITH YOU, SAY FEUDING DINOSAUR EXPERTS

The Observer ^ | 7 Sept. 2003 | Robin McKie

[Mike Darancette]

Enjoy

[ClearCase_guy]

'It's no longer about science. It's about reputations.'

Isn't it always?

[lizma]

global warming or sea level changes were responsible

Yada,yada,yada. What evidence was there that global warminig took place at this time??? From what I've read evidence points to global cooling.

[org.whodat]

'It's no longer about science. It's about reputations.'

Isn't it always?

No it's about all the liberal junk science based upon the big bang.

[Wilhelm Tell]

That's nothing new. I have for years worked with unethical dinosaurs.

[bondserv]

Another dream story. This is becoming entertaining.

[bondserv]

Pingaroonie!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!

[LiteKeeper]

INTREP

[bondserv]

My pleasure.

I am still trying to get enough time on my hands to jump into the "What Is Man" thread. A quick perusal told me to stay clear.

[Smokin' Joe]

Obviously, the samples should have been divided into sets, labelled, and distributed to the investigating parties from the wellsite, or the nearest shipping point. Sheesh! We do this on oil wells all the time.

Point two: A thriving plankton population does not rule out a massive die-off in terrestrial metazoans, but could result from the increase in nutrients released by the impact. While this might be good for relatively basic aquatic organisms, the same impact could be catastrophic for vertebrate lifeforms and the plants which ultimately form the base of their food chain. It would not take a hundred years of darkness to cause mayhem, ecologically, only a few critical months of growing season.

If there were a major nuclear winter effect, some evidence of glaciation occuring somewhere at the K-T boundary should be present.

I find the 'study' results inconclusive for determining whether or not the impact killed the dinosaurs. They only deal with plankton.

[cpdiii]

The dinosaurs died because George Bush did not support the Kyoto Treaty on Global Warming. :-) which can be directly linked to Chad Fraud in Florida by the Demoncrats. Thus in reality the Dinosaurs died because of Al Gore's campaign. :-)

[Dataman]

That was the quote that caught my eye also.

[Dataman]

Pingaroonie!

Thanks. Interesting. BTW, I've noticed that creationists will ping evolutionists, but the evos like only to ping their own. Hmmm.

[Alamo-Girl]

LOL! It'll take some reading to catch up, but I think you'll enjoy it. The idea of the thread is to compare answers to the question "What is Man?" from different worldviews.

betty boop is representing the Platonist worldview, I'm doing the Christian worldview. It gets a little strange because we think so much alike - we're both Christian and both Platonist. LOL!

Hank Kerchief has represented the Autonomist/Objectivist worldview. There are no full-fledged "takers" yet for other worldviews, but there has been engaging insight from various perspectives.

We'd love to hear your "two cents" and we welcome others to join in as well.

[cpdiii]

You are right. A "mere" ten degree drop in temperature for a couple of years would devestate large terrestrial animals as a
result of a massive die off in the terrestrial food supply. In geologic terms the recovery of the ocean plankton would be almost instant in relationship to what we find in the micro fossils. The dinosaurs could have been killed off and the oceans could have been "almost" wiped out but recovered quickly in relationship to the micro fossil record. The real way to intepret the data is the entire fossil record and die off at the K2 boundry. Many other species also "bit the dust" at the same time. This lends support to the impact theory but does not verify it.

[Rocky]

What, you mean scientists aren't strictly objective? Hey, maybe we ought to read between the lines with these scientific folks a little more often.

How can truth be advanced if the leaders of the discipline won't admit when they are wrong, but instead make every effort to stomp out any contradictory voices, even going so far as to conceal evidence that doesn't support their own pet theory?

[Samwise]

I can't wait to see what Ross has to say on the subject. ;^)

[Smokin' Joe]

Unfortunately, enough governmental entities are doling out grant money to 'studies' which have politically convenient results. The remainder are funded by foundations or corporate entities with their own agendae.

Some of the sacred cows of the grant industry include: Global Warming, Motorcycle Helmets and Seat Belts, Tobacco, HIV causes AIDS, and Genetically modified Food is good for you.

This doesn't begin to touch on When is a human life a human life (Abortion) or whether homosexuality is genetic or just aberrant behaviour.

If you want balance, better find out who funded the study. Most studies whose outcomes disagree with the stance of the funding organization will be quashed, those which ask questions like "Can tobacco have beneficial effects?" will never be funded, and the former will eventually be repeated by a different researcher or team, while the first group or researcher takes up construction work to make ends meet.

[AndrewC]

Deal a new hand. The games not over yet. No matter how the fossils are interpreted, if any thing is certain, physics hasn't changed on us.