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David Frum: GOP wants Obama's unconditional surrender
CNN ^ | July 18, 2011 | David Frum

Posted on 07/19/2011 9:41:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey Frum...I’ll hold the football and you kick it!


21 posted on 07/19/2011 11:50:35 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes Frum. The GOP had followed your advice they would have never regained the majority in the House last year, and wouldn’t even have to bother with the concept that they were at all relevant to anything this administration wanted to do.


22 posted on 07/20/2011 12:14:14 AM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: Irish Rose

You are correct. The GOP could do nothing to stop Obamacare, even if they had ALL repubs voting against it.


23 posted on 07/20/2011 12:47:20 AM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: Richard from IL

Is he ever correct?


24 posted on 07/20/2011 12:48:41 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They pursued an “all or nothing strategy and got nothing”? Frum proves himself an idot with that phrase alone. Sure the bill passed but it motivated a huge power shift from Republican to Democrat in 2010. Also conservative and GOP self id shot to the highest levels in recent history and polling shows the continued dominance. I don’t call that nothing.

Frum just doesn’t get it. We aren’t looking to make an ugly aweful bit of socialism more tolerable with a few conservative lite trimmings so that it will be even harder to ever get rid of. I don’t want our leaders hugging Democrats and smiling about how wonderful a piece of new wasteful govt is. David Frum and many others seem just happy to compromise themselves into political extinction or dilution is probably the better word.


25 posted on 07/20/2011 1:16:26 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Maybe once a decade.


26 posted on 07/20/2011 2:09:47 AM PDT by Richard from IL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We do want it, and we will get it...in about 16 months.


27 posted on 07/20/2011 2:20:41 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Maelstorm

David Frum worked for both George Bushes. Explains it all.


28 posted on 07/20/2011 2:59:42 AM PDT by laconic
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To: EyeGuy
Frum has progressed to the pupae stage in metamorphisizing from a RINO closet moth to a full blown Leftist earwig.

ROTFL.......that about sums it up. Although Frum did get a tiny thrill when he coined the term "Axis of Evil."

BTW, you might consider collecting the reward posted for anyone who can determine what Frum, David Brooks, Billy Kristol, and the rest of the pukeneos actually do for a living.

None of the pukes have any visible means of support, unless you count:

(1) media prostitution,

(2) editing stupid magazines subsidized by offshore wire transfers,

(3) infiltrating the US government,

(4) endless think-tank pontificating on the benefits if goading the US into invading Mideast countries of the pukes choosing,

(5) cheer-leading amnesty, National Greatness, America as Empire, Endless War, and John McCain,

(6) squatting in the Repub Party, hoping to destroy it from within,

(7) religious cleansing of the Repub Party, and,

(8) kicking so/con Repubs to the curb.

29 posted on 07/20/2011 3:00:14 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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Frum has nothing on Mona Charen----she was all atwitter over Obama's election. She needed smelling salts to revive.

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Tuesday, December 02, 2008
Pinch Me, Am I Dreaming?
by Mona Charen (revolving door conservative)
http://townhall.com/columnists/MonaCharen/2008/12/02/pinch_me,_am_i_dreaming

Superstition almost forbids me to comment on President-elect Obama's appointments thus far. The news has been so shockingly welcome that I'm almost afraid to remark on it for fear of breaking the spell. Such reticence has not afflicted everyone on the right, though.

Did you notice that in introducing his choices, the President-elect used the term "defeat our enemies"?

Max Boot, conservative editorialist, author, and military historian: "I am gobsmacked by these appointments, most of which could just as easily have come from a President McCain......(the neocon's choice) " NYT columnist (and neocon) David Brooks acknowledged that he is "tremendously impressed."

Obama's economic team of Lawrence Summers, Timothy Geithner, and Christina Romer does not exactly send a "to the ramparts" message.

Summers (now gone), treasury secretary under Bill Clinton, is known for his belief in free financial markets, free trade, and fiscal discipline. He got into terrific trouble as president of Harvard for implying that, on average, men are more mathematically talented than women (which is true but that is irrelevant in the Ivy League).

Geithner is a Summers protege (wants to leave the admin). As president of the NY Federal Reserve Bank, he has been knee-deep in bailouts over the past three months. But that datum doesn't distinguish him from the Bush administration or anyone else in the mainstream of America's economic elite.

Romer (now back in academia) recently penned an article making the case that tax cuts can increase economic activity. Hmmm. If the economic team is centrist, the foreign policy team (and I pinch myself as I say this) leans a little to the right.

Gen. James Jones, Obama's choice for national security adviser, is a four-star Marine general who was commandant of the Marine Corps and Supreme Allied Commander for Europe (SACEUR), among other posts. Response to his nomination among conservatives ranged from cautious optimism to outright enthusiasm. "He is a thoroughly decent man" one conservative foreign policy analyst told me.

Though his political views are not known, he has received the "Keeper of the Flame" award from the hard-line Center for Security Policy. The Foundation for the Defense of Democracy's (and National Review's) Michael Ledeen, no coddler of wimps, calls him "almost unbearably delightful" in the two or three conversations they've had. Everyone seems to agree that he has high intelligence and deep patriotism. If there is a hesitation, it arises from the fact that he is, like Colin Powell and Brent Scowcroft, a political general, and those have not always worked out so well.

As for Hillary Clinton, well, she is no Jeane Kirkpatrick. While it's true that she declined to apologize for her vote in favor of the Iraq war, she did everything but. It was only last year that she told Gen. Petraeus that his report on progress in Iraq "require(ed) a willing suspension of disbelief." She opposed the surge of troops in Iraq but then -- this is chutzpah! -- attempted to take credit for its success.

On Meet the Press in January 2008 she said "...The point of the surge was to quickly move the Iraqi government and Iraqi people. That is only now beginning to happen, and I believe in large measure because the Iraqi government, they watch us, they listen to us. I know very well that they follow everything that I say. And my commitment to begin withdrawing our troops in January of 2009 is a big factor, as it is with Sen. Obama, Sen. Edwards, those of us on the Democratic side. It is a big factor in pushing the Iraqi government to finally do what they should have been doing all along."

She has criticized what she calls the Bush administration's "obsessive" focus on "expensive and unproven missile defense technology." On trade, she has made protectionist noises.

On the other hand, she is not Carl Levin or Dennis Kucinich or Anthony Lake or Samantha Power. And that, along with the other appointments, is enough to keep some of us smiling at a time when we were expecting to be in deep anguish. ####

30 posted on 07/20/2011 3:05:46 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dave, we can only wish what you say were true. Have a look at the woefully weak performance of much of the Senate GOP. If you hate the idea of forcing Obama to eat a sh*t sandwich, you`ll be heartened.


31 posted on 07/20/2011 3:14:08 AM PDT by ScottinVA (As a party that gives Obama what he wants, what again is the GOP`s 2012 selling point?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Frum is Canadian.

Like the Kenyan lizard king, he’s not a natural born American.

What is the Kenyan’s plan beside raising taxes anyway?


32 posted on 07/20/2011 3:30:04 AM PDT by y6162
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To: eclecticEel

The David Duo, Frum and Brooks. Is there anything else these pseudo-conservatives can’t do?


33 posted on 07/20/2011 4:09:09 AM PDT by princeofdarkness (The Obama Administration is circling the wagons. But the Truth Indians are using flaming arrows.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unconditional surrender works for me! Many others would prefer his head on a pike!


34 posted on 07/20/2011 4:33:29 AM PDT by WellyP
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I personally would accept an unconditional surrender....

Only if it involved obama being hauled off to prison in handcuffs.

Otherwise, I would settle for impeachment, or maybe a resignation. But only if he leaves the country and is banished from our shores forever.


35 posted on 07/20/2011 5:13:46 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s right. I DO want Zero’s unconditional surrender. In fact, I want his unconditional RESIGNATION.


36 posted on 07/20/2011 6:57:36 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Once again David Frum demonstrates he is a Democrat operative pretending to be “Conservative”.

All House GOP DID it's job. It passed a Debt Ceiling bill. Instead of spending all his time regurgitating Democrat Party talking points, pseudo Conservative Frum SHOULD be asking when the Democrat Senate and President are going to quit posturing and DO THEIR JOB.

37 posted on 07/20/2011 8:47:47 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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“Then as now, Republicans rejected all concessions by the president as pathetically inadequate.”

What a fairy tale. Barry has conceded NOTHING. $2 billion in cuts on a 1.5 trillion deficit for FY 2012? FUBO.

When are we going get back on the winning game plan and make this about failures of obama and the senate dims????


38 posted on 07/20/2011 9:19:49 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: MNJohnnie

“Instead of spending all his time regurgitating Democrat Party talking points, pseudo Conservative Frum SHOULD be asking when the Democrat Senate and President are going to quit posturing and DO THEIR JOB.”

FRiend, you are right. The Republicans are afraid to make demands of the dims if it means a fight. Barry saw their weakness and went on the attack which just makes the situation even worse. I thought we were making some progress before July 4th but then barry must have pulled out the photos of McConnell with a live boy/dead girl. Last week was a historic fiasco. Now we are in circular firing squad mode and the dims are happy as can be.


39 posted on 07/20/2011 9:32:53 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d prefer resignation or impeachment to surrender.


40 posted on 07/20/2011 9:40:16 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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