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Biden's disinformation board will NOT spy on American citizens and claim it is the 'opposite' of George Orwell's 'Ministry of Truth'
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Posted on 05/01/2022 9:27:01 AM PDT by algore

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To: algore

Well. Biden gave a “firm no” so its all good. If there is anyone trustworthy it is Joe Biden and his administration. They would never use the power of the government to spy on Americans.


41 posted on 05/01/2022 11:48:54 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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Mayorkas also defended the board's new head Nina Jankowicz, a Russian disinformation expert who previously advised the Ukrainian government, from a slew of Republican accusations of hyperpartisanship.

There's no such thing as a disinformation expert.

42 posted on 05/01/2022 12:07:42 PM PDT by cockroach_magoo
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Just like the NSA doesn’t collect data on Americans.


43 posted on 05/01/2022 12:57:07 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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“Biden’s disinformation board will NOT spy on American citizens ...”

Of course not. Their particular mission is to control what Americans are allowed to see, hear, read, write, say, think, do and not do. Nothing to do with spying.


44 posted on 05/01/2022 2:19:13 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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Mayorkas wouldn’t tell the truth if it whacked him in the PP.


45 posted on 05/01/2022 3:57:03 PM PDT by CMailBag
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To: TLI
“A firm no’’.

More like a firm possibility of a definite maybe.

46 posted on 05/01/2022 3:59:25 PM PDT by jmacusa (America. Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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To: algore
They think that freedom of the press refers only to them. It does not. It is a right for all of us.

I've been saying this for a long time.


Here is an older post of mine that expresses my thoughts on that.


The notion that "freedom of the press" refers to the trade of journalism is incorrect. Usage of the phrase "the press" to refer to newspapermen didn't originate until the early 1900s.

The origins of the first amendment reference to "freedom of the press" literally refers to the machine, the printing press.

All the rights of individuals in the first amendment should be taken together as different sides of the same concept:

  • "abridging the freedom of speech" quite literally meant speech as far as crowds of people could hear you. It's the proverbial person standing on a soapbox in the town square shouting his opinions to others.
  • "the right of the people to peaceably assemble" means literally to stand together to hear a speaker speak. During colonial British rule, a group of people seen together in public would be suspected as being conspirators against the Crown. Free speech does no good if the People aren't allowed to congregate to hear you.
  • "freedom of the press" meant the right of anyone to publish. Spoken word only traveled as far as one could hear it. Printing one's thoughts and distributing them across the colonies extended the reach of thought, and therefore, its influence.
  • "the freedom to worship" combines the above three, publishing the tenets of a religion, gathering in common prayer, and speaking about one's beliefs to others.
  • "the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances" meant using the freedoms of speech, press, and assembly to call out when the federal government exceeded its Constitutional authority.

"Journalism," or "the press" as they like to refer to themselves, is an amalgam of these rights. It's an industry that uses free speech and free press to report on the activities of government through the way government interacts with and impacts the people, as well as reporting on the assemblies of people with each other.

But ultimately, freedom of the press is the peoples' right to publish, not CNN's right to special protections. If this journalist is saying that CNN has a right to publish innuendo and smear, then we ALL do.


Follow-up thoughts with links:


The origin of the term "the press" to refer to periodicals and journalism generally (see also the so-called Fourth Estate) didn't begin until the 1800s. The usage in reference specifically to reporters and journalists collectively didn't begin until the early 1900s.

At the time of the Framers of the Constitution, "the press" meant the printing press, and "freedom of the press" meant the right of citizens to publish, sharing their thoughts, opinions, and beliefs beyond the range of simple speech in a town square. Many examples of this were "citizen journalists," journaling the goings on in their communities, and sharing opinions on them with the other colonies.

"Freedom of the press" was meant to ban the federal government from stopping Americans from mass communicating, not to enshrine a special class of "journalists" as watchdogs over the government. All citizens were watchdogs, just as we do here on Free Republic.



Benjamin Franklin's thoughts on freedom of the press, from the same linked thread:


What's interesting in Franklin's original piece is that the "court" he is referring to is the so-called court of public opinion.

The "press" is not a class of journalists as it is known today; it was the citizen journalist who had something to say. Quoting Franklin:

In whose favor and for whose emolument this court is established? In favor of about one citizen in 500, who by education, or practice in scribbling, has acquired a tolerable stile as to grammar and construction so as to bear printing; or who is possessed of a press and a few types? This 500th part of the citizens have the privilege of accusing and abusing the other 499 parts, at their pleasure; or they may hire out their pens and press to others for that purpose...

It is not by any Commission from the Supreme Executive Council, who might previously judge of the abilities, integrity, knowledge, &c. of the persons to be appointed to this great trust, of deciding upon the characters and good fame of the citizens; for this court is above that council, and may accuse, judge, and condemn it, at pleasure. Nor is it hereditary, as in the court of dernier resort, in the peerage of England. But any man who can procure pen, ink, and paper, with a press, and a huge pair of BLACKING balls, may commissionate himself: And his court is immediately established in the plenary possession and exercise of its rights.


Just as Franklin suggested, today's "one citizen in 500" class of elitist "journalists" regularly engage in what Franklin called "the privilege of accusing and abusing the other 499 parts, at their pleasure." That's what Twitter was for, and that's why conservatives were deplatformed, shadow banned, and censored from responding in kind.

What was really prescient was Franklin's warning:

It is not by any Commission from the Supreme Executive Council, who might previously judge of the abilities, integrity, knowledge, &c. of the persons to be appointed to this great trust, of deciding upon the characters and good fame of the citizens;
This is EXACTLY what Biden's new Disinformation Governance Board is setting itself up to do.

We should heed Franklin's words.

-PJ

47 posted on 05/01/2022 4:01:46 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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He lauded her as 'eminently qualified' and a 'renowned expert in the field of disinformation.'

So far, that latter part seems to be dead on. :)

48 posted on 05/01/2022 4:03:07 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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Very good blast from the past post.

Nothing against Franklin but he probably did not experience Orwell’s World. Orwell is looking like a great prophet these days


49 posted on 05/01/2022 4:14:32 PM PDT by nomorelurker
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