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Sen. Kerry and His Supporting Crewmates House of Lies
The Bandit | August 7, 2004 | The Bandit

Posted on 08/07/2004 12:09:08 PM PDT by The Bandit

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To: Steven W.

Kerry and Short are going to have to get their stories straight.

Kerry in 1996- "I never went behind the hootch, and this is the first time in 30 years that anybody has suggested otherwise."

Ahh- Perhaps you might want to check with Fred Short:

" As Short recalled, the guerilla ran behind a hut."

Page 102--" The Complete Biography of John F Kerry, By The Boston Globe Reporters Who Know Him Best:-Michael Kranish"

Short claims the kid aimed his weapon-however on
Pages 101- 102 ibid :

the kid is described as " holding, "
"clutching, " and
" with " a rocket-the word aimed is never used.

Page 102 ibid :
" I'll never be able to explain,
we were literally face to face, he with his B-40 rocket and us in our boat, and
he didn't pull the trigger .. Kerry said in an interview."

The kid popped his head up when Kerry beached the boat and took off running.

" He was running away with a live B 40 and, I thought, poised to turn around and fire it."

"Asked whether that meant Kerry shot the guerilla in the back,
Kerry said "No, absolutely not."

Medeiros and the others saying -" The guy was getting ready to stand up with a rocket on his shoulder, coming up."
and that he saw the VC guerilla standing on both feet ready to fire a rocket at Kerry's boat "

are contradicted in Kranish's book.

Page 101- " a teen ager in a loin cloth, popped out of narrow spider hole..looked surprised.. and (after Medeiros shot him in the leg)," he got up off the ground and started running."

And also contradicted by John Kerry in his own words.

In an interview with Joe Klein for the New Yorker in 2002 " The Long War Of John Kerry " :

Kerry says-
"When he first stood up, he froze, because he didn't expect to see us staring him in the face, literally ten yards away. "

Klein continues-
"The man was wounded by one of Kerry's crewmates and began to run; Kerry leaped off the boat and chased him. "

It's obvious that in all the years that Kerry and his crew mates have been telling their stories, no one has ever challenged all the discrepancies.


41 posted on 08/07/2004 11:01:36 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: The Bandit
Perception is reality!!!

That is all that matters in an election.

Whatever the "PUBLIC" hears is what it will believe.

That is my two cents worth.

42 posted on 08/07/2004 11:06:02 PM PDT by R_Kangel
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To: The Bandit

bttt


43 posted on 08/07/2004 11:15:25 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: stumpy

Didn't the dems say at the convention that Spielberg did kerrys' convention movie ??

gosh...first ya find out kerry was a war-medal MAGNET in only 132 days in Viet Nam, and then ya find out that kerry was lucky enough to have had "ET's "Father" Spielberg there also to save his heroics on film for all the world to see!! ...whew...kerry is SO lucky!!

IMHO, up until this point in time as I type this, I can't
believe..(oops...change believe to UNDERSTAND) kerrys : "good luck" !!!


44 posted on 08/07/2004 11:45:16 PM PDT by musicman
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To: The Bandit

Kerry's boat exploded a mine, or not?


45 posted on 08/08/2004 12:05:32 AM PDT by greasepaint
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To: LOC1
This is from out of the north 40 but, those 13 crew members who support Kerry - is it possible their support results from a little "palm greasing" or some other "reward"?

After all, with all of his money not to mention Teresa's, they could have made some deals too good to turn down!

46 posted on 08/08/2004 12:46:36 AM PDT by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: Baynative
I'm sick and tired of the Dims accusing President Bush of lying to the American people. It is John Kerry who is lying to the American people. He is no war hero. He is a traitor who lied and is still lying about his Vietnam heroics. John Kerry is a whining misfit who must never be allowed to occupy the White House. All of his foreign policy statements have no substance. His economic policy statements have no substance. Only "Elect me and find out what my policies are afterward". Most of us know what his policies are. Turn our foreign policy over to the UN. Raise our taxes and destroy our economy. His energy policy will be, you get to walk or ride a bicycle to work 3 out of 5 days a week. That is, if you are lucky enough to have a job. After 4 yrs of John Kerry as President, all of our pockets will be as empty as a prostitute's hope chest.
47 posted on 08/08/2004 1:06:02 AM PDT by jerry639
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To: The Bandit

Fantastic post! Belated bump!


48 posted on 08/08/2004 4:25:43 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: The Bandit
Sen. Kerry went from shooting a wounded kid in the back to war hero who had saved his entire crew's life from instant death.

Steve Gardner was on the Savage Show this past week. He tells a different story. He was the gunner on board Kerry's Swift Boat. He said they were 30 feet from shore when this alleged incident took place. If this kid jumped the swift boat, he must have been Jesus Christ and walked on water to shore.

Gardner said he fired into the boat( from which the kid was to have originated )and shot the boat pilot; but sadly and this event haunts him to this day - a young boy was shot and killed found under the Vietnamese man. A woman was on board was spared. They were suspected of hauling rice to the enemy troops. Gardner disputes the "kid shot in the back Kerry scenario".

Now, I asked myself why someone would make up the story of shooting a kid in the back. The only thought that comes to mind is Kerry might have been trying to be "identify" with those vets that fought in Viet nam. "I sympathize with you, I feel your pain..I was in Vietnam too..I did the same acts (he assumes) like you" scenario.

We won't have to worry about the mainstream media asking these questions, they have already discredited the swift boat vets.
See:Networks Decry Anti-Kerry Ad

We could solve a lot of the questions by Kerry signing the 180...why won't Kerry sign the 180 and release his military medical records..that should be the outcry. Then we would know of his true war injuries..and if what he is saying comes any close to being true.

49 posted on 08/08/2004 6:16:22 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: OXENinFLA

Did a little survey last night of the two bookstores in town one is a Dalton and the other is a combination video rental/bookstore.

Dalton had a half dozen of Tommy Frank's book on the wall behind the counter and that was it. I asked when they were going to get Unfit for Command they said they weren't but I could special order it begining Sep 1.

Hastings had thre different stacks of Frank's book on three different tables (Clintoon's My Lies was usually next to Tommy's book), and they have 36 copies of Unfit for Command comming in on Aug 31 with a when one is sold another one is ordered supply set up.

Might be fun to see what your book stores that claim to support reading for educational enrichment are doing.

BTW guess which one I'll patronize.


51 posted on 08/08/2004 9:04:51 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: The Bandit

Great post!

As usual, the Bard said it best:

"What a tangled web we weave/ when first we practice to deceive."


52 posted on 08/08/2004 9:07:51 AM PDT by livius
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To: No!

bttt


53 posted on 08/08/2004 9:11:22 AM PDT by technochick99 (Sanctimonious prig, proudly posting and criticizing (except the FRN) since 1999.)
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To: The Bandit

BTT


54 posted on 08/08/2004 10:40:24 AM PDT by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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To: The Bandit
Excellent post! The so called "Band of Brothers" have some inconsistencies is their accounts, inconsistencies that may be more than failures of memories.

This is very important because all that we are seeing on the TV is disputations of the Ad by Kerry's supporters. The whole issue is in danger of being written off as pure politcal dirty tricks.

55 posted on 08/08/2004 10:44:17 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: The Bandit; IPWGOP; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog

Go to this link for a great rebuttal re one of the Dork's self inflicted Purple Hearts.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1187462/posts


56 posted on 08/08/2004 11:35:59 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Franchurian Dork Candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri says, "Judge me by my record".. We will!!.)
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To: sauropod

read later


57 posted on 08/08/2004 11:43:00 AM PDT by sauropod (Hitlary: " We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: The Bandit

John Kerry : "war hero" or a "war criminal"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1186991/posts

Answer the question Kerry!

Did you lie about your "heroics" or the "war crimes"?

Can't have it both ways!

RELASE ALL YOUR MILITARY RECORDS BEFORE NOV 2nd!

Unless you are hiding something?

Are you?


58 posted on 08/08/2004 11:50:40 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (It only takes one idiot to raze a village.)
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To: The Bandit

"This is clearly another outright falsehood because Sen. Kerry was never shot or bleeding on March 13, 1969 when the incident with Jim Rassmann occurred."


AWESOME work, thank you very much.


Rassmann did tell us this past week he is having "memory" problems.......


59 posted on 08/08/2004 11:57:12 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: kristinn

Here is some interesting reading.... helps explain why Rassmann is now talking about "memory" .... and timing....


60 posted on 08/08/2004 12:04:10 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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