Why are objectivists hyping "The Incredibles"?

Danny Taggart's Blogarama ^ | 12/06/2004 | Danny Taggart

[Malleus Dei]

I kinda take offense to hearing such amazing cutting edge technology and special effects being called cartoons.

Sorry, I know that incorrect terminology is a problem that can be bothersome in professions, but if I were you I'd get over it. Most folks aren't going to say "I'm watching the 3-D computer animated features." They'll say "I'm watching the cartoons."

[cwiz24]

If you are offended by people who are not familiar with the animation industry calling these projects "cartoons", then you have a serious issue. And, by the by, anyone who says that they're not splitting hairs is.

[escapefromboston]

Whats wrong with Cartoons? also you are splitting hairs, even if you don't want to.

[valkyrieanne]

When did Howard Roark "earn" his architectural insight? He worked hard to develop the skills, but he was born with his talent. Peter Keating could never have been a Roark, no matter how much effort he put into it.

Exactly. At bottom, the Randian universe essentially consists of gene-"worship," because true genius-level talent is usually portrayed as innate. The "purpose" of the ordinary person, as it were, is to "worship" and serve the genetically-talented.

[gorush]

Is this written by Dagney's brother?

[7thson]

This is actually a extremely moral movie. The superheros have talents and use them to do good. It is society that that wants to hide the talents. What did Jesus say about having talent. Do not bury your talent in the sand but use your talent for the benefit of God! We do not have superheros in our world but we have gifted people - intelligent, artists, singers, dancers, athletes - the list goes on. But we have a society today telling our children to hide their talent because it is not fair to the other kids. Liberals wants us to hide our talent in the sand. The movie says that no matter what our talent, we should have it shine outward to the world. That is the moral and Christian message.

[7thson]

But he has a talent - his gifted brain. And he has honed his body to become a fighting machine. He does not hide his talent - his brain - either as Batman or Bruce Wayne.

[sober libertarian]

A go cart made from a lawn mower engine is not the same thing as a porshe 9-11 yet they both achieve the same goal of transport people around via the combustion engine and 4 wheels! Are go carts and and Eurpoean sport cars the same thing, or am I still splitting hairs?

[Future Snake Eater]

I hear ya, man. Though I have no artistic talent whatsoever (in the X, Y, or Z axes), I am a movie freak, and I develop a facial tic every time I hear "cartoon" when it should just be "movie" (i.e. "The Incredibles").

The same thing used to get me when people would call anime "cartoons." They would be syntactically comparing "Akira" with Donald Duck or Porky Pig.

There's that tic again...

[escapefromboston]

No you are splitting hairs, have fun working on your cartoons.
That is what they are, cartoons. You may feel insulted by this but it doesn't change the fact that it is still a cartoon.

[Protagoras]

I kinda take offense to hearing such amazing cutting edge technology and special effects being called cartoons.

Just imagine how the real cartoonists feel about people with no innate talent using a computer to do an end run on those who do.

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[sober libertarian]

would you define cartoon for me?

[escapefromboston]

I just figured it was a movie about being a good father. Mister Parr was a bad father "figure" to buddy and look how he turned out. He wasn't even a very good father to his own kids, and he had a pretty cruddy life. By the end of the movie he realized what he always had, a loving family and decides to spend more time with them.

Sure dressing in tights and fighting super criminals is different than playing a board game with your kids but its basically the same idea.

[jimfree]

A is A.

[Protagoras]

Excellent post

[jimfree]

But Elastigirl is so hot!

[escapefromboston]

animated cartoon:
a motion picture made from a series of drawings simulating motion by means of slight progressive changes in the drawings

(from M-W.com)

Sure its not drawn by hand but its basically the same idea. Also I don't care if you feel insulted, grow up. You make cartoons, do you think you are better than Tex Avery?

[sober libertarian]

Main Entry: car·toon
Pronunciation: kär-'tün
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Italian cartone pasteboard, cartoon, augmentative of carta leaf of paper -- more at CARD

1 : a preparatory design, drawing, or painting (as for a fresco)

2 a : a drawing intended as satire, caricature, or humor b : COMIC STRIP

3 : ANIMATED CARTOON

4 : a ludicrously simplistic, unrealistic, or one-dimensional portrayal or version

[escapefromboston]

Elastigirl is hot I agree. She is no Jessica Rabbit but she still has it going on!

[LexBaird]

Again, I dont mean to sound like I am splitting hairs here, but as a 3D animator, I kinda take offense to hearing such amazing cutting edge technology and special effects being called cartoons.

Actually, I take great offense! How dare you animators of both 2D and 3D co-opt the word "cartoon" when the only true and perfect meaning of the word is a full scale underdrawing for a work of art. Not to split hairs, of course.