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Guardian Ad Litem Report on Terri Schiavo (everyone should read this)
http://jb-williams.com/ts-report-12-03.htm ^ | 12/03 | Jay Wolfson

Posted on 03/23/2005 12:33:00 PM PST by teenyelliott

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To: AmericaUnited
The guy is a shill.

For what? The huge conspiracy to kill Terri?
61 posted on 03/23/2005 2:03:35 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green is made of liberals...)
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To: This Just In
common law wife(Bigamist-which is against the law

I do not believe that Florida recognizes common law marriage. Therefore he is not a bigamist, nor does living with another woman, regardless of the moral implications, make him a criminal.
62 posted on 03/23/2005 2:05:39 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green is made of liberals...)
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To: outofhere2
with multiple bone fractures

Where is this medical report?
63 posted on 03/23/2005 2:07:12 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green is made of liberals...)
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To: teenyelliott
If you don't know, you haven't been paying close attention to what's going on in this case. There are sworn affidavits telling about suspected abuse she has suffered at the hands of her husband, allowed against doctor's orders by the hospice. She deserves to have her life saved in protective custody until all this is sorted out.
64 posted on 03/23/2005 2:07:41 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
Also, feed someone is not keeping them alive "artificially

"In 1999, following extensive bipartisan efforts, life-prolonging procedures were redefined as "any medical procedure, treatment, or intervention, including artificially provided sustenance and hydration, which sustains, restores, or supplants a spontaneous vital function."
65 posted on 03/23/2005 2:10:12 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green is made of liberals...)
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To: teenyelliott

"I do not believe that Florida recognizes common law marriage. Therefore he is not a bigamist, nor does living with another woman, regardless of the moral implications, make him a criminal."

No, it doesn't make him a criminal. But it sure zaps his credibility as the sole witness to have heard him wife state she wanted to die in this type of situation.


66 posted on 03/23/2005 2:13:21 PM PST by keats5
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To: teenyelliott
Wolfson is a shill, a rubber stamp! It is just a complete joke what he wrote in the report related to how the scumbag husband "was so devoted, show the utmost care and love for Terri" blah, blah, blah! Unbelievable when so many have testified OTHERWISE!
67 posted on 03/23/2005 2:14:45 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: keats5
Whereas Michael will be free to marry his lover and mother of his two children should Terri die, the other witnesses seem to have no other motivation, other than love of Terri.

Well I suppose it's hard to believe that Daddy and Mommy are money-grubbing vultures, but sometimes we just have to accept reality. From the judge's ruling after the first trial:

During the period of time following the incident of February 23, 1990 the parties worked together in an attempt to provide the best care possible for Terri Schiavo. On February 14, 1993, this amicable relationship between the parties was severed. While the testimony differs on what may or may not have been promised to whom and by whom, it is clear to this court that such severance was predicated upon money and the fact that Mr. Schiavo was unwilling to equally divide his loss of consortium award with Mr. and Mrs. Schindler. The parties have literally not spoken since that date. Regrettably, money overshadows this entire case and creates potential of conflict of interest for both sides. The Guardian Ad Litem noted that Mr. Schiavo's conflict of interest was that if Terri Schiavo died while he is still her husband, he would inherit her estate. The record before this court discloses that should Mr. and Mrs. Schindler prevail, their stated hope is that Mr. Schiavo would divorce their daughter, get on with his life, they would be appointed guardians of Terri Schiavo and become her heirs at law. They have even encouraged him to "get on with his life". Therefore, neither side is exempt from finger pointing as to possible conflicts of interest in this case.

Reference

68 posted on 03/23/2005 2:20:16 PM PST by Tarantulas
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To: outofhere2

I have wondered, had she died that night would there have been an automatic autopsy? If so, why will there not be one when she dies now?
susie


69 posted on 03/23/2005 2:26:10 PM PST by brytlea
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To: Recall

Goodness I trust my husband will wait til I'm in the ground before he sires children by another woman. And, barring that, I KNOW he would divorce me first and allow someone else to care for me if he felt he couldn't or didn't want to.
And I the same for him.
What happened to in sickness and in health and til death do us part? What a selfish generation we are.
susie


70 posted on 03/23/2005 2:28:26 PM PST by brytlea
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To: teenyelliott
What law is on the books that allows death by starvation, especially of an innocent person? If you can show me such a law, I'll show you a law that should be broken and repealed.
71 posted on 03/23/2005 2:31:35 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: keats5
No, it doesn't make him a criminal. But it sure zaps his credibility as the sole witness to have heard him wife state she wanted to die in this type of situation.

He's not the sole witness to her statements. In the timeline on the Terri Schiavo page at Abstract Appeal, there are links to the actual court documents for each of the trials. The first one is the judge's order after the trial in January of 2000. Five people testified about statements Terri had made regarding maintaining life support. Mrs. Schindler and another witness testified that Terri commented about the Karen Ann Quinlan case that the father shouldn't remove life support from Karen. The court found inconsistencies with both witnesses. Michael Schiavo, his brother, and his sister-in-law testified about statements Terri had made about independence, quality of life, not to be a burden, hooked to a machine, etc. The court found no inconsistencies with the testimony of these witnesses. The court discounted the Karen Ann Quinlan statements, since Terri made them at the age of 11 or 12 and they were statements about what she would do for someone else rather than about herself in the same situation. The other statements were made when she was an adult. When her grandmother was in intensive care, she said that "if she was ever a burden she would not want to live like that." While she and Michael watched a TV show about people on life support, she again said she would not want to live like that. At her grandmother's funeral, she said to Michael's brother Scott, "If I ever go like that just let me go. Don't leave me there. I don't want to be kept alive on a machine." And while watching a TV movie about a man in a coma, she said to Scott's wife Joan that she wanted it stated in her will that "she would want the tubes and everything taken out if that ever happened to her." That court document is here, and I find the Schiavo statements to be much more credible than the Schindler statements. How about you?

72 posted on 03/23/2005 2:31:53 PM PST by Tarantulas
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To: outofhere2
It took 10 years before her parents got a hold of her medical records which her husband it has been reported withheld from them. The records indicated broken bones including a broken spinal column news stations have reported.

Where is this documented, and not simply reported?

news stations have reported

Since when do we trust the media? Only when what they report serves our purpose?

Doctors and nurses have been known to make critical mistakes in health care, hence

True, but there have been more doctors and nurses involved in this case than you will ever meet in your life. How many of them do you think are wrong? All of them?
73 posted on 03/23/2005 2:34:47 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green is made of liberals...)
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To: the Deejay

I am curious, because I cannot tell from any of the court records I have read. When they say she went home to be with family, was it her parents or Michael?
susie


74 posted on 03/23/2005 2:36:55 PM PST by brytlea
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To: keats5
You should be a little more accurate. Michael was NOT the sole witness to testify to Terri's wishes.

You may not believe the others, either, but there were others.

75 posted on 03/23/2005 2:37:02 PM PST by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: xsmommy
i've read it, it has not changed my mind in the slightest

Okay. My intent is not to change minds, but to give everyone additional information with which to form an educated opinion.
76 posted on 03/23/2005 2:37:22 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green is made of liberals...)
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To: brytlea

Excellent question. Why the hurry to kill her and then cremate her IMMEDIATELY. What does Michael Schiavo want to hide. Why not allow an autopsy and a public review of the medical records taken after her mysterious accident?


77 posted on 03/23/2005 2:38:18 PM PST by outofhere2 (Silence can be a good thing for those who don't know what they're talking about.)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

Yes, but the money is almost gone now. So what is the husband's motivation in your mind?


78 posted on 03/23/2005 2:39:04 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green is made of liberals...)
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To: Jim 0216
What law is on the books that allows death by starvation, especially of an innocent person? If you can show me such a law, I'll show you a law that should be broken and repealed.

Here it is.

(10) "Life-prolonging procedure" means any medical procedure, treatment, or intervention, including artificially provided sustenance and hydration, which sustains, restores, or supplants a spontaneous vital function. The term does not include the administration of medication or performance of medical procedure, when such medication or procedure is deemed necessary to provide comfort care or to alleviate pain.

The 2004 Florida Statutes, Title XLIV, Civil Rights, Chapter 765, Health Care Advance Directives, 765.101 Definitions.

79 posted on 03/23/2005 2:41:07 PM PST by Tarantulas
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To: teenyelliott
"The court established a trust fund for Theresa's financial award, with SouthTrust Bank as the Guardian and an independent trustee. This fund was meticulously managed and accounted for and Michael Schiavo had no control over its use. There is no evidence in the record of the trust administration documents of any mismanagement of Theresa's estate, and the records on this matter are excellently maintained." I wonder who the independent trustee was? Were distributions of the money at this person's discretion? I'm very curious how her money has been used for the legal expenses. susie
80 posted on 03/23/2005 2:43:27 PM PST by brytlea
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