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David versus the Bolsheviks: The Battle of Lexington Green in the Year 2005
OpinionEditorials.com ^ | Sept. 20, 2005 | Linda Kimball

Posted on 09/20/2005 12:20:00 PM PDT by Lindykim

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To: Alter Kaker
Moreover, the article is careless to the point of meaninglessness.
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My point being, could she simply tell us what happened, instead of hyper-ventilating in print?

Dah it is called an editorial not a report, let me see if I can excplain the diffeerence to you.

A report is suppose to be a factual unbiased report on a story.

An editorial, on the other hand, is a story with an editors spin or emotions tied into it.

What Linda did is an Editorial.

And you Alter Kater are either not reading, not understanding or simply out to insult and agitate. None of which are particularly good traits.

41 posted on 09/21/2005 5:09:47 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: lexfreedom
Ping

Thought you'd be interested in this.

42 posted on 09/21/2005 5:16:41 AM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (http://soapboxharry.blogspot.com/)
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To: gidget7
This is the whole story.

Sorry, but not so. I googled him in and found other stories which added the part about him refusing to leave and challenging the school. My sense is he wanted to get arrested, which is fine, but probably not the way to go with issues like this.

43 posted on 09/21/2005 5:43:51 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: gidget7

And I don't disagree with his goals, but he apparently got what he sought, publicity through an arrest. The left does it all the time.


44 posted on 09/21/2005 5:45:56 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: newsgatherer
An editorial, on the other hand, is a story with an editors spin or emotions tied into it.

Really? Thanks for clearing that one up, Aristotle. Calling people "Communists," "Fascists," or "Nazis" is simply not an effective debating point. It makes you sound shrill and silly, and justs draws attention to itself. Grow up.

What Linda did is an Editorial.

Yes. One in which she (1) fails to adequately let us know what exactly it is she's commenting on, (2) one in which she comes across as unreliable, uninformative and potentially unsound.

45 posted on 09/21/2005 8:09:04 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Lindykim
The school administration…is attempting to put themselves in the role as parents

Attempting? They already have the children 10 hours/day. Universal compulsory schooling was a socialist (Prussian) institution from its inception.

46 posted on 09/21/2005 8:18:11 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: MACVSOG68
He should confront the school board and elected officials, or try home schooling if none of that works.

Parents are a child's primary educators, not schools. The State can only justly overide natural parental rights if the parents are grossly neglecting their parental duties.

47 posted on 09/21/2005 8:21:54 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Alter Kaker
So mr. enlightened one, tell me, how many publications publish what you rant about?

Linda get's over 800 individual unique hits a week on Christian-news-in-maine.com alone. So, where are you published again?

Jake

48 posted on 09/21/2005 8:59:49 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: Aquinasfan
Parents are a child's primary educators, not schools. The State can only justly overide natural parental rights if the parents are grossly neglecting their parental duties

How does that concept fit in with the discussion and my comment?

49 posted on 09/21/2005 9:16:47 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: newsgatherer
Linda get's over 800 individual unique hits a week on Christian-news-in-maine.com alone.

The article still stinks. A newspaper with a circulation of 800 would be a joke --- maybe the problem is your lack of editorial standards. Actual standards might result in a appreciable audience.

50 posted on 09/21/2005 10:39:13 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: newsgatherer
So, where are you published again?

I'm published in at least as many places as this Linda fellow. Vanity websites are not publishing houses, a whopping 800 hits to the contrary notwithstanding.

51 posted on 09/21/2005 10:43:20 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: MACVSOG68; Alter Kaker; little jeremiah

What your brain refuses to recognize, Macv, is that there is no politely reasonable way to deal with people who are determined to use the power of the state to indoctrinate your children. You have to confront them head on because they just keep pushing and pushing and pushing.

Cultural left activists have been steadily infiltrating school boards. The only way to stop these people is to fight back loudly and publicly.


52 posted on 09/21/2005 10:56:01 AM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Sam the Sham

I agree. And at the same time pulling one's own kids out of the meat grinder. If humanly possible.


53 posted on 09/21/2005 11:10:33 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Sam the Sham
What your brain refuses to recognize, Macv, is that there is no politely reasonable way to deal with people who are determined to use the power of the state to indoctrinate your children.

I've often wondered why those on both the extremes resort to personal attacks when they suspect anyone disagrees with them.

You have to confront them head on because they just keep pushing and pushing and pushing.

You will not find any post of mine that disagrees with the motives of Parker. But a reading the first paragraph of the original post clearly paints a picture that did not exist. I merely stated that his actions were essentially no different from those used by activists on the left. He was trying to get publicity by getting arrested, plain and simple. I do not know how much effort he made trying to get the school board to notify him when objectionable (to him) subjects were being taught, or whether he has considered other options such as private schools or home schooling.

My brain may not recognize everything, sir, but it does recognize duplicity whether on the left or the right.

54 posted on 09/21/2005 11:12:20 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68; Alter Kaker

You can only fight activist tactics by using them yourself. Tell me, what exactly is wrong about using mobilization ? It works. Do you think politics is a tea party ? What is wrong about loudly calling attention to injustice to force a confrontation ? What is wrong about being willing to go to jail to call attention to injustice ? What is wrong about being a martyr for the faith ? His actions were heroic and commendable.

You can only fight confrontation with confrontation of your own. If you try to be politely reasonable and diplomatic with these people you will be walked over ever time. Obviously Parker is dealing with a school board controlled by sodomite activists and sympathizers. Home schooling is to essentially run and concede his tax dollars and the public sphere to them. Your Caspar Milquetoast whine about "getting the school board (i.e. gay activists) to notify him" is ridiculous.

This is war. Our enemies are not politely reasonable. Neither should we be.


55 posted on 09/21/2005 11:36:46 AM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: MACVSOG68

And by the way, what exactly is "extreme" about directly fighting and confronting militant deviance ?


56 posted on 09/21/2005 11:39:12 AM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Sam the Sham
If you try to be politely reasonable and diplomatic with these people you will be walked over ever time.

I'm not saying you have to follow Marquess of Queensbury rules whenever you confront liberals, I'm saying yelling "Bolshevik" only makes you look like a nut.

57 posted on 09/21/2005 11:42:16 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Sam the Sham
What is wrong about loudly calling attention to injustice to force a confrontation ? What is wrong about being willing to go to jail to call attention to injustice ?

Heck, both you and Mr. Parker can launch all the revolutions you want. You can use any tactic you want. My point is simply that the article posted didn't say any of the things you are saying. It was duplicitous. It simply made Parker sound like any reasonable citizen walking into school and requesting something, only to be attacked by the police, loosed by a ravenous Bolshevik school board:

His heinous crime? Parker is guilty of being a morally principled man with the courage to request that he and his wife be given advance notification when issues of sexual unnaturalness and perversion (transgenderism, sodomy, and same-sex headed relationships) were going to be discussed in his son's classroom

This is why you some times have to look to the hated MSM to at least get the story of what really happened.

58 posted on 09/21/2005 11:44:58 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68

Once again, you fail to see the point.

Parker was a reasonable man who made a reasonable request, one which the school board had no intention of complying with. He asked them to respect his right to teach his children Bible values and not try to indoctrinate them with sodomite values. He wasn't asking them to teach his children Bible values. Just not to actively undermine them.

He confronted the hidden agenda of the school board which was to undermine Bible values wherever and whenever possible. He had made a request which they had no intention of complying with. Direct confrontation is a wonderful way of exposing the hidden, conspiratorial agendas of cultural leftists who hate Christianity.


59 posted on 09/21/2005 11:52:42 AM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Sam the Sham
Parker was a reasonable man who made a reasonable request, one which the school board had no intention of complying with.

No, I've already seen enough from your posts alone to know he was anything but a reasonable man. I've not seen anything of his actual written or oral requests to the school board, nor as I mentioned earlier, have I seen anything resembling a desire on his part for another solution. As you have pointed out repeatedly, he wanted a confrontation, and that's what he got.

I wonder if he had the best interests of his child in mind, or was simply reinforcing his own religious biases and agenda? My point though continues to be that the article simply did not tell the truth about his motivations or actions, not to assign judgment as the right or wrong about him.

60 posted on 09/21/2005 12:09:28 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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