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For Hillary, There's No Such Thing as Dirty Money
Nation ^ | October 1, 2007 | Nicholas von Hoffman

Posted on 10/20/2007 10:25:34 AM PDT by Eva

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To: devolve

LOL, how did I know you were going to come up with a really good graphic??

Very nice!


21 posted on 10/20/2007 1:59:07 PM PDT by potlatch ("Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance!")
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To: deport; All
Here is a list of links that chronicles the scandal that the conservatives are ignoring. The list of links is from a blog called, Sweetness and Light.

* Hillary Shakes Down Chinatown
* Hillary Is Keeping $260K From Hsu “Associates”
* Shocker: Hillary Leads Fundraising Horse Race
* Complaint Says Hsu Reimbursed 2 Dem Donors
* WP Finds Past Shady Donors On Hillary’s List
* Hsu Paid For Hillary Staff’s Las Vegas Vacation
* Clinton Camp: Secret Service Doesn’t Vet Donors
* Hsu Wrote “Suicide” Letters Blaming Obama * Shocker: Hillary Would Like Returned Cash Back
* Questions About The Clintons Indian Money Man
* Justice Dept Probing Hsu’s Democrat Fundraising
* Indicted Paki Hillary Fundraiser Fled US In March
* WSJ Uncovers Chinese Money Funnel To The

22 posted on 10/20/2007 2:10:20 PM PDT by Eva
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To: sageb1

I’m going to bump this one more time before I go get some work done.


23 posted on 10/20/2007 2:18:53 PM PDT by Eva
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To: devolve

Great graphic!


24 posted on 10/20/2007 2:19:55 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva
Excellent work, Eva.

Bump! before running off to Mass.
25 posted on 10/20/2007 2:25:52 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: potlatch; Eva

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Good thread


26 posted on 10/20/2007 2:43:37 PM PDT by devolve (---- -Secret_Asian_Man_&_Dr.No-No_Sorass_-)
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To: devolve

Lol, thought you were asleep.

Bump!


27 posted on 10/20/2007 2:45:52 PM PDT by potlatch ("Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance!")
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To: potlatch

This is from yesterday’s WSJ-Best of the WEB. It appears that, like Gore’s Buddhist Temple fund raisers, there is no controlling authority. So, that means that the work must be done by us and other grass roots organizers to get the word out and hold Hillary’s feet to fire on this one.

As Long as You Don’t Serve the Chicken That Way
Hillary Clinton’s campaign has been raking in money from New York’s Chinatown, the Los Angeles Times reports. A single fund-raising event in April brought in $380,000. John Kerry, by contrast, raised $24,000 from Chinatown in the entire 2004 campaign.

“Chinatown’s newfound role in the 2008 election cycle marks another chapter in the centuries-old American saga of marginalized ethnic groups and newly arrived immigrants turning to politics to improve their lot,” the Times says. But much of its story raises questions about this feel-good description. “Dishwashers, waiters and others whose jobs and dilapidated home addresses seem to make them unpromising targets for political fundraisers are pouring $1,000 and $2,000 contributions into Clinton’s campaign treasury,” the Times reports.

The paper tries, without much success, to figure out who these people are and how they can afford to write big checks to Mrs. Clinton:

Of 74 residents of New York’s Chinatown, Flushing, the Bronx or Brooklyn that The Times called or visited, only 24 could be reached for comment. . . .

The tenement at 44 Henry St. was listed in Clinton’s campaign reports as the home of Shu Fang Li, who reportedly gave $1,000.

In a recent visit, a man, apparently drunk, was asleep near the entrance to the neighboring beauty parlor, the Nice Hair Salon.

A tenant living in the apartment listed as Li’s address said through a translator that she had not heard of him, although she had lived there for the last 10 years.

A man named Liang Zheng was listed as having contributed $1,000. The address given was a large apartment building on East 194th Street in the Bronx, but no one by that name could be located there.

Census figures for 2000 show the median family income for the area was less than $21,000. About 45% of the population was living below the poverty line, more than double the city average.

In the busy heart of East Broadway, beneath the Manhattan Bridge, is a building that is listed as the home of Sang Cheung Lee, also reported to have given $1,000. Trash was piled in the dimly lighted entrance hall. Neighbors said they knew of no one with Lee’s name there; they knocked on one another’s doors in a futile effort to find him.

Salespeople at a store on Canal Street were similarly baffled when asked about Shih Kan Chang, listed as working there and having given $1,000. The store sells purses, jewelry and novelty Buddha statues. Employees said they had not heard of Chang.

Another listed donor, Yi Min Liu, said he did not make the $1,000 contribution in April that was reported in his name. He said he attended a banquet for Clinton but did not give her money.

Reading the story, one suspects—although the Times never raises the possibility, and offers no direct evidence that this is the case—that one or more contributors are evading the $2,300 donation limit by either giving money under phony names or laundering contributions through busboys and others who would not normally make political contributions.

If this is the case, it is an example of how campaign finance restrictions create incentives for corruption. (Mrs. Clinton voted for the McCain-Feingold law in 2001.) If the law allowed unlimited contributions but required full disclosure, we would know who was giving money to Mrs. Clinton. As it is, it appears as though some party or parties are doing so corruptly.

And even if this is all on the up-and-up, because of campaign finance restrictions, Mrs. Clinton is burdened with the appearance of corruption. Though to be fair, there may be no legal regime that can prevent that.


28 posted on 10/20/2007 3:50:26 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

I don’t claim to be a ‘deep’ news watcher Eva, I mostly make animated graphics to parody the rudiments I am aware of.

It’s well known that the Clintons ‘gave’ China secrets. All Hillary has to do now is have her minions ‘set up’ a fund-raiser’ and I believe the Chinese will manage to siphon the money in any way they can.


29 posted on 10/20/2007 4:01:18 PM PDT by potlatch ("Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance!")
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30 posted on 10/20/2007 4:43:31 PM PDT by devolve (---- -Secret_Asian_Man_&_Dr.No-No_Sorass_-)
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To: Eva

Thank you for compiling all the info! I’ll bump it, and read it, and then bump it..and well, you know.

Keep up the great work!


31 posted on 10/20/2007 5:12:55 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Eva; Sidebar Moderator

I wish this was in the activism slot....this is what FR is all about. Reading, informing and spreading the NEWS about unethical issues...and then be an activist about it. ;-)


32 posted on 10/20/2007 5:14:33 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Eva
Has this been posted yet? CNN, no less...

Clinton's Black-Box Candidacy

33 posted on 10/20/2007 6:37:59 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1; All
Whoa, I think that article that you posted is one of the hardest hitting articles that I have read. It really tells it like it is. For anyone who missed this post, check this out. Clinton's Black-Box Candidacy
34 posted on 10/20/2007 7:41:10 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva
Here is a good article with a lot of names. The Bundling of the President, 2008
35 posted on 10/20/2007 7:43:53 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

Those are some of the first names that I have seen, but frankly, I don’t have a clue about who they are. It will take someone who is a lot more informed than me to interpret that list of donors.


36 posted on 10/20/2007 8:25:05 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; Grampa Dave; holdonnow; stevemalzberg1; Laura_Ingraham; ...

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Well, we know what he was doing with his time. John Huang traveled extensively as the Riadys' principal agent in the United States. Among other places, he went to Little Rock to keep up his contact with then Gov. Bill Clinton. He raised money for Governor Clinton's reelection and he raised money for the campaign for President. The committee determined that in 1992 the Riadys were the largest single contributor to the Democratic National Committee, larger than any union, larger than any Hollywood star, larger than any special interest group connected with the Democratic Party. The No. 1 contributor to the Democratic National Committee was the Riady family.

After the election, John Huang continued traveling the country as the Riadys principal agent in the United States, but he added a new wrinkle to his activities. He started hosting officials of the People's Republic of China, taking them wherever possible to introduce them to members of the Clinton administration.

In one case, he brought a Riady partner with connections to the Chinese intelligence apparatus to meet Vice President Gore. Now, why the People's Republic of China? Why would the Riadys be interested in courting favor with the Chinese? Public sources say the Riadys have more than $1 billion invested in China. We asked the CIA if there were other links between the Riadys and the Chinese. The answers are in S-407, the secret room here in the Capitol, and any Senator who wishes can repair there and see just how close the relationship is between the Riadys and the Chinese. I assure you it is very close.

This is what the committee says: `The committee has learned from recently acquired information that James and Mochtar Riady have had a long-term relationship with a Chinese intelligence agency. The relationship is based on mutual benefit, with the Riadys receiving assistance in finding business opportunities in exchange for large sums of money and other help'-- I said we would revisit crony capitalism. `Although the relationship appears based on business interests, the committee understands that the Chinese intelligence agency seeks to locate and develop relationships with information collectors, particularly persons with close connections to the U.S. Government.'

What did John Huang do at the Commerce Department? Well, we know from some of those lower level people that he attended a lot of meetings and that he was a very assiduous note taker. He was an information collector. But other than that, his superiors at Commerce said the same thing that his superiors at the Lippo Bank said: `We really don't know what John Huang did with his time. We really don't know what he did each day.'

Well, we know at least some of the things he did. No. 1, we know he went to the White House 67 times while he was Deputy Assistant Secretary. I know Cabinet officers who would be jealous of the opportunity to go to the White House half that often. No. 2, we know that at least once or twice nearly every week in the entire time he was at the Commerce Department he walked out of his Commerce Department office, went across the street to Stephens Inc's Washington office where he received packages, FAXes, and phone calls; and then with the door closed in an office in that suite, he made phone calls and sent out FAXes. We do not know to whom. We do not know what was in those packages that he received there or why it was essential for him to go there at least once, and often twice, almost every single week for 18 months.

We also know that even though he had received close to $900,000 in severance from the Lippo Group, there was one tie with the Lippo Group that was not severed. They left him with a corporate telephone credit card, and he used that credit card to make over 400 telephone calls to Lippo officials--at least 232 of them to officials of the Lippo Bank. Many of these calls were made on his Commerce Department telephone, using the corporate credit card from the corporation from which, supposedly, he had been severed.

Now, here, therefore, is the structure: You have John Huang in the Commerce Department, in an area of great sensitivity, taking notes and getting briefed by the CIA, and in and out of the White House more often than a Cabinet officer. He is on the phone weekly, or more often, to Lippo executives who have very close ties to Chinese intelligence.

If ever there was a conduit that could be used to pass intelligence information from inside the Clinton administration to the Chinese intelligence apparatus, or Lippo, or both, that conduit was this: From the United States Government through the conduit created by John Huang to the Lippo Group or the Chinese Government. Was this what the Riadys hoped for when they paid for all those money-losing corporations? If it is, they certainly had it.

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Now, I want to focus on the most famous of John Huang's fundraising activities--the April 29, 1996, fundraiser at the Buddhist Temple that he ran along with Maria Hsia. The amount of money he raised was not the largest amount, but it was the most significant amount. He raised $140,000, most of which had to be returned because the alleged donors were, in fact, reimbursed, dollar for dollar, in a way that is classic money laundering and clearly illegal.

I focus on this not because it is the most famous, but because it is the best symbol of what appears to have been going on here. It has the most complete cast of characters. Here we have one event, and representing the Clinton administration was the Vice President, Al Gore; representing the DNC, its chairman, Don Fowler; representing the Lippo Group, John Huang, still carrying a Lippo credit card; and representing Chinese intelligence, Maria Hsia and Ted Sioeng.

I need to talk a minute about Ted Sioeng. There were press reports that indicated he was, in fact, connected with Chinese intelligence. When we were in room 407 getting a confidential briefing in executive session from the Director of the FBI and the Director of the CIA, I asked the question, `Is there any connection between Ted Sioeng and the intelligence operation of the People's Republic of China?' The answer I got was, `We don't know.' So I asked the question, `Aren't you interested?' `Well, yes.' I then asked the question, `Will you find out?' `Yes.' And then I asked the question, `When you find out, will you share that information with this committee?' `Yes.'

The next time we gathered in executive session with the Director of the CIA and the Director of the FBI, this was their opening comment: `We need to make a correction of our previous statements. It turns out that in response to Senator Bennett's questions, we went back and checked our files and discovered that we did indeed have information linking Ted Sioeng to the People's Republic of China.'

This was discovered in the CIA files. When they went to find the source of that information in the CIA files, they discovered that their source was the FBI. In fact, it was in both agencies and neither agency Director had known about this. I won't go into that matter further, because Senator Specter made a speech about it on the floor castigating the Department of Justice for not doing the very fundamental kind of activities that would have discovered that and prevented their Directors from being so embarrassed before the members of the committee.

It is time to summarize. What do we have here? We have a conduit that runs from the inside of the Clinton administration to the inside of the Chinese intelligence apparatus. It is a conduit through which could flow from the United States to the Chinese classified information about U.S. trade policy and strategy. It is also a conduit through which could flow from the Chinese, or Lippo, to the Democratic National Committee funds to support the reelection of President Clinton. We do know that funds did flow through that conduit from Lippo to the DNC--those funds that I identified that came through Hip Hing Holdings that have had to be returned. We do not know whether funds have come from the Chinese Government, either down through Lippo or directly through the conduit to the Democratic National Committee.

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The Clinton-China Conduit: Connecting the Dots

37 posted on 10/20/2007 9:56:03 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

Thanks for the ping!


38 posted on 10/20/2007 10:09:00 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: doug from upland

ping


39 posted on 10/20/2007 10:10:53 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Eva; All

Just for fun

http://www.addictinggames.com/dressuphillary.html


40 posted on 10/20/2007 10:11:45 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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