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Time to "blacklist" anti Palin Republicans

Posted on 04/19/2009 3:04:45 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative

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To: wildbill

John McCain fought for this country in Vietnam. and I have nothing but respect for his military service. He is an American hero.

but John McCain the political candidate was a weak little gutless weasel with no balls.


61 posted on 04/19/2009 3:55:53 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (AMERICA WILL SURVIVE !)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Since political parties are supposed to be parties of IDEALS and PRINCIPLES, I would think the most effective action is one in which when the ideals and principles are in variance to the foundation of the party that they are then taken down. I do not believe focusing this on a person is wise, long lastingly effective for party change, or even worth the effort.

A party should not be based on a a person (as we saw how this can completely ruin a party with George W Bush) but on the fulfillment and sticking to the prescription of the foundational ideals and principles. Then and only then can the masses shape and form a strong political party with distinct candidates that stick to such a foundation. If you are going to come down hard on these politicians it should ALWAYS and FOREVER be in their implementation of the core principles—both positively and negatively. Otherwise once the person dies or is discredited the party itself is either in shambles or highly weakened.

62 posted on 04/19/2009 4:01:03 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: cripplecreek
Yes. This is why the GOP needs to clarify its ideals, principles, and values and then hold their candidates and politicians to this standard. Everything else is just someone else's grudge or mission and not relevant to the long term goals of the party and the solid foundation of principles, ideals, and values and implementation there of.

This should be the only and the exclusive focus always of the party. People? Either they stick to those principles or they do not. If they do not we take them out or do not vote them in as candidates. We do not fund them as candidates. If the GOP does the GOP does not get our money. It should never be harassing people, candidates, or elected politicians because of their agreement or disagreement with a candidate, but a focus on whether or not they are fulfilling the principles of the party.

63 posted on 04/19/2009 4:07:59 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: upsdriver
I am not a fan of political correctness no matter which side is enforcing their group think.

I'm with you!

64 posted on 04/19/2009 4:11:34 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Of course. That’s why I was agreeing with her.


65 posted on 04/19/2009 4:16:38 PM PDT by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Thanks for that Reagan quote!


66 posted on 04/19/2009 4:17:39 PM PDT by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

I’d be angry too, if I lived in Sardis. Just admit it - you are a young punk with a big mouth


67 posted on 04/19/2009 4:21:01 PM PDT by muleskinner ("You know the Germans always make good stuff')
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To: seatrout

For someone who called the Palin family rather tawdry, I honestly doubt that you can see things straight.


68 posted on 04/19/2009 4:22:01 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: 21twelve

You’re welcome.


69 posted on 04/19/2009 4:22:25 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: SolidWood
The reason why we fracture are those Republicans who attack Conservatives and don’t listen to Reagan’s 11th Commandment:
“Never speak ill of another Republican.”

I see a lot of attacks on McCain and Romney as RINOs, and very few from McCain and Romney supporters against Palin.

I'd suggest ALL Republicans - including those here supporting Palin - remember Reagan's words on working together and compromise:

"When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn't like it.

"Compromise" was a dirty word to them and they wouldn't face the fact that we couldn't get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don't get it all, some said, don't take anything.

"I'd learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: 'I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.'

"If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.

Those are sage words; if only ALL Republicans would remember them. Better a 60% agreeable "RINO" than a Schumer or Pelosi. Ronald Reagan would agree - it's right in line with his own words.

Rather than charging sitting Republicans who are not Conservative enough as RINOs and continuing to fracture the party, we should work to push them to the Conservative positions, or to find alternative candidates to meet them in the primary - but challenge them in the realm of ideas and values rather than personal attacks. And whoever wins the primary, get behind them in general election.

I'd take a John McCain over an Obama or Pelosi or Reid any day; I'd greatly prefer a Newt or Bennett or Santorum even more! Unfortunately, I fear too many FReepers have lost touch with the wisdom of Ronald Reagan and have become so extreme that only those who they perceive to be 100% ideologically pure can ever be supported. And that leaves us with the minority role forever.

70 posted on 04/19/2009 4:23:02 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: SolidWood
"Schlussel is pretty popular among Conservatives, but she turned on the Palins like a liberal, calling them “pretentious stupid white trash” and worse."

Pretentious? Palin is the least pretentious of any pol I've seen in years. Stupid? Really? That's rather amazing since she comes from a family of teachers.

I believe the "white trash" portion of this little cat scratch tells the real story...Debbie desperately wants to feel superior. She dresses pretty trashy and wears thick makeup. She could declare half the country as worthy of the trash bin and she still would not look any better to me.

71 posted on 04/19/2009 4:23:24 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

What if I disagree with Governor Palin becuase she’s not that conservative *puts on flame suit!?


72 posted on 04/19/2009 4:30:29 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Obama yo 'mama', Uncle Sam yo 'baby daddy'!; (The new cry of the Obama generation)!)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

As soon as the upcoming special election in CA is over next month, I am switching to the Libertarian party. I have had it with the GOP.


73 posted on 04/19/2009 4:31:12 PM PDT by glock_fan
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Jeez. You sound like a member of the Obama administration here.
74 posted on 04/19/2009 4:32:18 PM PDT by McGruff (I guess it all depends upon what the meaning of "bow" is.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
What do you think is their motive? I have seen this question posted a few times on this thread. What is their reward? Who do they please by doing such a thing? I do not have a list of those that have attacked her but it makes me curious about why she threatens them. Have there been valid disagreements on policy in their comments or have they just been unfounded personal attacks?

I have not been following this at all so I am curious what are the forms of the attacks taking and what sort of policies do those that attack her take in action when voting? Are they foundational conservative votes or RHINO liberal votes? Is there a connection between the two or are they just threatened by her high visibility and feminine wiles? ;-).

75 posted on 04/19/2009 4:32:21 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: cripplecreek

We decide. We’re much more fair-minded people than RINOs adn otehr liberals will ever be or will ever even try to be.


76 posted on 04/19/2009 4:36:16 PM PDT by TBP
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I say this as a Palin supporter, but by all means I'm not in favor of treating her with kid gloves or giving her a pass on issues that conservatives hold dear.

Let's not forget that Ronald Reagan had enemies in the Republican Party and overcame them. If Sarah Palin is what we think she is, she will overcome her intra-party rivals as well. I like Sarah Palin in any exchange of ideas. Unlike some of her rivals and like Ronald Reagan, Sarah speaks conservatism with real conviction.

77 posted on 04/19/2009 4:39:50 PM PDT by CommerceComet
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Nina Easton. Mitt cheerleader extraordinaire, posing as an unbiased commentator on Fox after debates.
78 posted on 04/19/2009 4:40:00 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Get rid of the RINOs and the problem is solved.


79 posted on 04/19/2009 4:41:57 PM PDT by rintense (Go Israel!)
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To: JSDude1
I would think if you can voice your disagreements it would be a start of a good discussion. That is if people around here could take off their politician worship and pick up their ideals, principles, and core, foundational political principles' hat. Intelligent, thoughtful discussion about whether a politician/candidate fulfills on the foundation of principles is damn healthy and healthy for our republic. Hero worship divorced from such foundational arguments to me is just another fascist tactic not at all unlike the Obama brainwash worship.

Fire away. There are a select few on this site that spew hate when they disagree and attack the person FR member instead of offering up intelligent disagreements regarding the candidate/politician backed up by facts or thoughtful examples. There are also others on this site that won't listen to a disagreement no matter how thoughtful or intelligently offered as they just worship their politician forgetting God told them He is the only one they should worship.

80 posted on 04/19/2009 4:42:55 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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