The REAL Story of Thanksgiving
Communism didn't work any better 400 years ago than it does today.
[Thanks, FreeKeys.]
Posted on 11/21/2009 7:34:36 AM PST by FreeKeys
What did they call communism back then? Karl Marx was around in the 1800's.
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Not quite right. There was at least one other treaty with the Indians that was never broken by either party:
The German settlers in Fredericksburg, Texas, have an over 150 year old treaty with the Comanche that lasts to this day. It is celebrated by both groups (annually, I believe).
Also, it is my understanding that Squanto as a young boy went to England with the remaining Hope colonists when they gave up. He became educated in England, and even had an audience with the King. During which, he responded to a question about his greatest desire, “To return to my homeland and teach my people about Jesus Christ.”
If this is true, and as I've read it various sources, I believe it to be so, the Indians the Pilgrims encountered were already familiar with the precepts of Christianity. That may be one reason why the Pilgrim-Indian relationship was so cordial.
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Neat! I'll add that to my information.
So you're in the Hill Country?
My daughter and hubby - (Navy pilot - when stationed in Corpus - would take trips to Fredericksburg. She LOVES it there. I researched it online. My kinda place.)
Re Squanto- Tisquantum: No where, in all the writings of the Pilgrims, have I come across anything on Squanto re his conversion to Christianity. I do think it would have been noted, as that would have been quite a startling discovery.
He was, indeed, a captive in, first,Spain, where he came under the protection of friars for a bit before being taken under the wing of Sir Ferdinando Gorges - fortunate for Squanto - Sir Gorges was head of the Council for New England - and this would lead to Squanto eventually being send to England, where he picked up the language.
Being valuable as a translator, he was sent back to America and eventually made his way back to the Plymouth area that had been his birthplace only to find his village had been wiped out by illness - plague or influenza? He then made his way to Massasoit and lived with his people until after the Pilgrims came.
after becoming friends with them, he set up his wiciup next to the village as he had acquired a liking for the English way of living. And, as we know, he was invaluable to the Pilgrims those first 2 years.
However, he became a little too big for his breechcloat - and began to double deal with the Pilgrims and the Indians, with a goal of usurping power. Massasoit called for his death - but due the the fortuitous arrival of a ship on the horizon (turned out to be "The Fortune"!) he escaped to live a few more months. However, in the fall of 1622, he took ill. It started with a nose bleed. He died - with purple lips and fingernails. I have never heard it supposed, but I suspicion Massasoit finally carried out his sentence of death - as the symptoms are consistent with poisoning.
The only mention that connects Squanto to Christianity that I remember coming across is in Gov. Bradford's account of his death: "He asked the "Governor to pray for him that he might go to the Englishman's God in Heaven."
Gov. Bradford commented no further.
The REAL Story of Thanksgiving
Communism didn't work any better 400 years ago than it does today.
[Thanks, FreeKeys.]
Their differences and opposing religious beliefs didn't start the fight, however, a plus for both sides. The misinterpretation of an Indian death started the horrific war.
Good article...thanks for the ping, LucyT.
I never learned this in school. Heard it for the first time on Rush’s show a long time ago.
Interesting how the *educators* leave out the most important facts.
>>>Communism didn’t work any better 400 years ago than it does today.<<<
I’m sure the liberals of today would say that the Pilgrims just weren’t doing it the right way (or something equally dumb).
Happy Thanksgiving! (I can still say that, right?)
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While we can all note with approval the contents of Mr. Bradford's diaries, the fact is that the Thanksgiving feast had nothing to do with it.
One of the most loathesome things an author can do, is bend history to suit an ideological purpose. Communists do that sort of thing. So, apparently, does Mr. Schmidt.
sources and references?
Yes, thanks for pointing that out again. You might notice that, among all the corroboration, all the other articles, resources, sources and references listed at the bottom of the post, that particular article is the first one, and the search page for Mises.org is among the last ones
You mean, other than the fact that the first Thanksgiving feast was held in the fall of 1621, to celebrate the Pilgrims' first successful harvest ... and that, a decade before the supposed transition to a free market economy?
The article is cute, but it's bullsh*t, FRiend.
Michael Medved tells the same story for Thanksgiving.
According to native sources, the Indians provided venison, corn pudding, pumpkin, native birds and fish to the Pilgrims for the feast.
If they had a great harvest, perhaps they would have been feeding he natives, not the other way around. There are a whole lot of sources in this article.
Could you please share yours? I don’t want to teach my kids any untruths.
You’ll have to settle for second place on their list, at best. I have first place already staked out. I will either be FIRST on their enemies list or totally off it until it’s too late for them to react to me!
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