Posted on 03/31/2010 5:59:00 PM PDT by ConservativeHideout
Prussian state schools came to America in the mid 1800’s, and they’re still here. Not a good sign.
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I would take the Prussian state model over any functioning system that has ever been shown in the real modern world.And I am ducking fer sur!
Old Otto von was the granddaddy of the modern civil service. After cobbling the multi-fractious and various German states, principalities and the Prussian states into a unified Germany in 1871, somebody had to administer all the various departments and over-see the postal system, make sure folks got taxed, make sure the taxes got collected, make sure the trains ran on time ,etc. And then in something that would latter get to be a kind of habit with the Germans, to celebrate their new found power and glory as a unified nation, they invaded France in 1879. They’d do that again in 1914. And then again in 1940. The Krauts sure had a thing about kicking the Frenchies around.
John... John...John..., lookup something, anything really’’’ try to educate yourself. france declared war on Prussia around 1870 or 1871, just to teach those un-nationalistic perenial victim Germans a series lesson. It did not turn out well for the frogs.
Thanks!
...and we see the results every day.
It was pay back for all the French invasions of German-speaking principalities. The French weren’t surrender monkeys in the past, but rather very militaristic. The french militarism has gone away but the obnoxiousness continues.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Charles_Meynier_-_Napoleon_in_Berlin.png
As an American of Polish descent, I don’t have a dog in this fight. I tend to side with the Germans.
In can’t help but ask, given your own time frame.
How did the American education system of 1840 falter due to modern 1850 influences and how do we suffer today from the same?
The Prussian school system was based on dull, repetitive tasks, bells, division of cirriculum and time blocs, long-term isolation from daily life, and building groupthink. The building of knowlege has never been the goal of American public education. Many of those who supported implementing it admitted that much.
Ohhhh plulllezzeee!
Are you actually saying that the Prussian advances in popular education of the early and mid 19th century are our problem one hundred and fifty years on?
Sorry but I say you are not intellectually serious, just a parrot that responds to certain cues, words, etcetera,etcetera, according to type.
It’s a free country, so you’re entitled to your opinion, not that I have any reason to value it.
A picture is worth a thousand words. Nice link.
Considering what the Poles suffered at the hands of the Germans?
Yeah, you’re right on the first point. I forgot that bit of history. Whats was the excuse for 1914 and 1940?
I assume by “1940” you are referring to the declaration of war by france against Germany in “1939”?
I assume by “1914” you are referring to the response of Germany to the total war mobilization declared by france and her Czarist ally against Germany?
Yeah I know dude, I’m being a bit cheeky here. 1914 was bad alliances on everybodys part. France, Britain and Russia against Germany, Austria/Hungry, the Ottoman Turks, etc. Never mind the Kaiser, the King and the Czar were all cousins. 1940 was everybodys response to Adolph’s wanting to set the world on fire.
I don’t believe in collective guilt. The madmen who committed those atrocities against Poland and a host of other countries are dead. Dead and buried.
However, the brilliant German culture of Goethe, Beethoven, Schiller, Schubert, Schumann, Bach, etc etc lives on! No sense throwing the baby out with the bath water.
It’s unfair to blame the Germans of today for their past. (my Polish mother said that to me when i was boy almost 40years ago.)
I’m biased as I can read German and speak “ein bisschen”.
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