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Obama X marks the spot (Obama is on a separate Hawaiian list of foreign births)
Lame Cherry Blog ^ | WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 19, 2011 | The Lame Cherry

Posted on 01/20/2011 12:21:07 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009

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“It’s crazy,” said Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health. “I don’t think anything is ever going to satisfy them.”

Okubo, who said that she gets weekly questions from Obama ‘Birthers’ that are “more like threats,” explained that the certificate of live birth reproduced by Obama’s campaign should have debunked the conspiracy theories. “If you were born in Bali, for example,” Okubo explained, “you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate. But it’s become very clear that it doesn’t matter what I say. The people who are questioning this bring up all these implausible scenarios. What if the physician lied? What if the state lied? It’s just become an urban legend at this point.”
http://washingtonindependent.com/51489/birther-movement-picks-up-steam


41 posted on 01/20/2011 1:31:36 PM PST by jamese777
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To: Candor7
So ? could it be said that his Kenyan birth certificate with witnesses who can vouch that he was born in Kenya has more legal weight than whatever is on that list in Hawaii ?
42 posted on 01/20/2011 1:33:05 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
From a different better location



43 posted on 01/20/2011 1:33:15 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: GBA

Three years and counting ...
Fate, curiosity and consequences have been setting the stage and soon We, the People, will be to ready to hear what we wouldn’t listen to in 2008.

G*d, I hope so ...


44 posted on 01/20/2011 1:36:43 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: American Constitutionalist

It depends on the provenance of the Kenyan document.Congress should acting on this now and investigating the matter,its #10 on their agenda.


45 posted on 01/20/2011 1:39:29 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com2009/05/brack_obama_the _quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Springfield Reformer

So, having sorted through the article, I wonder if I’m understanding this. Is the author is simply inferring the existence of a “separated list” from the governor’s odd choice of words?

I’m not saying it isn’t so, and I’m not saying his central thesis of widespread immigration fraud in HI is wrong, but a very juicy, plausible inference does not a smoking gun make. Is the “written down” thing an entry on this theorized list, or is it an Act 96 Affidavit, either of which might be hand-written (as “written down” tends to suggest)?


Your analysis is better than the inferences in the article ...

I think he is speculating as we all are ...

Did you see the comments of the Hawaiian resident who HEARD the foreign mothers saying

“Sure, go on down to the DOH, they’ll give you a Birth Certificate just on your say-so, it is so easy.”

Interesting.


46 posted on 01/20/2011 1:41:06 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Believe it or not, from Pravda !!!

“Laws of the Territory of Hawaii ACT 96 To Provide For The Issuance Of Certificates Of Hawaiian Birth was in effect from 1911 until 1972 and allowed someone who was born outside the Hawaiian Islands to be registered as though he were born in Hawaii. Under that law, someone simply would have presented herself to the Hawaiian authorities and declared that the child was born in Hawaii.”


47 posted on 01/20/2011 1:43:52 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: jamese777

Hi James


“It’s crazy,” said Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health. “I don’t think anything is ever going to satisfy them.”

Okubo, who said that she gets weekly questions from Obama ‘Birthers’ that are “more like threats,” explained that the certificate of live birth reproduced by Obama’s campaign should have debunked the conspiracy theories. “If you were born in Bali, for example,” Okubo explained, “you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate. But it’s become very clear that it doesn’t matter what I say. The people who are questioning this bring up all these implausible scenarios. What if the physician lied? What if the state lied? It’s just become an urban legend at this point.”
http://washingtonindependent.com/51489/birther-movement-picks-up-steam


Well, can we see this “certificate”.

I mean, like, hold it in our hands?

Why not?

After 3 years of waiting why not ???

And why not the long form too ???


48 posted on 01/20/2011 1:46:57 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Ok guys....

I have never ever, anywhere but this post heard of a “separated list”

This blog does not provide a link, it does not provide a history, does not provide anything at all.

Take it with a shaker of salt.


49 posted on 01/20/2011 1:49:19 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimh)
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To: Candor7
" All we here are doing now is irritating the hell out of Obama, and we are doing a damn good job at that. They finally are forced to respond with an obfuscation campaign.This is when Congress should be acting.

Metaphorically speaking, this is their own version of the Battle of the Bulge.
50 posted on 01/20/2011 1:49:49 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I believe this is a fake, and was discussed at length quite some time ago.

Note, with ALL the information on this ‘document’, where is the File Number?


51 posted on 01/20/2011 1:51:37 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimh)
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To: Candor7

yes, as a non-lawyer i can answer that in laymen’s terms-this is the flip side

you see, if he were born out of the States to an american mother pretty much anywhere , then he’s American even with the British subject father Obama buuuuuttt because Stanley Ann Dunham failed to meet the residency requirements for Hawaii at the time of Obama’s birth and having a Brit subject for a father then clearly he is disqualified.

imho and elementary analysis of this new piece of information it’s just another lie, that’s all no matter which way the dreidel drops, it’s all lies and until the correct information is brought to light we won’t be seeing the truth very soon.


52 posted on 01/20/2011 1:54:09 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT
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To: Danae

I have never ever, anywhere but this post heard of a “separated list”

This blog does not provide a link, it does not provide a history, does not provide anything at all.

Take it with a shaker of salt.


I agree.

But it is interesting speculation non the less ...


What else fills the bill for Abercrombum’s bizarre statement ?


53 posted on 01/20/2011 1:55:10 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: jamese777
” Okubo explained, “you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate "

But Okubo would have to explain why that was not done in Obama's case and explain why then ? that there are witnesses who can testify ( Obama's grandmother ) that Obama was born in Kenya, and there is a Kenyan birth certificate stating that he was born in Kenya.
54 posted on 01/20/2011 1:56:22 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Danae

Whited out it seems, at upper right ...

Just like the COLB

only racially incorrect !!!


55 posted on 01/20/2011 1:56:30 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: jamese777

I see you are still cutting and pasting and have nothing of substance to add to the discussion. I suggest you STFU and go back to liberal land and join your zotted friends there.


56 posted on 01/20/2011 1:59:41 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: MissDairyGoodnessVT

Its not Rocket science. Either he was born on US soil or he was not.It doesn’t much matter who his mom and pop were, even though that can be argued.

Article II of the constitution needs to be satisfied, not the law of citizenship.Natural born means born on US soil.
Its pretty straight forward Ms Goodness.

Everything so far points to Obama being born outside the United States.And a simple document will prove that or not. Why not simply release it? Because it will show that he is not qualified to be president.

All original Hawaii documentation by now has been destroyed.


57 posted on 01/20/2011 2:01:27 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com2009/05/brack_obama_the _quintessentia_1.html)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I have not seen that comment. Where is it?


58 posted on 01/20/2011 2:04:18 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
The question should be asked of Okubo, IF that is your Hawaii laws and procedures, why was it not held up and done in Obama's case ? since there are eye witnesses who can testify that Obama was born in Kenya, and most of the Kenyan Parliament says that Obama was born there, and there is a Kenyan birth certificate that states that he was born there.
Yes, Okubo, should be ask then ? why is there conflicting evidence and eye witnesses that makes her claim invalid ?
Is Janice Okubo making the outlandish statement that Obama's own grandmother, and the Kenyan Parliament are lying ?

Come on Janice Okubo, Main Stream Media, Democrat Obama operatives, come on , answer the question ? is Obama's Grandmother and the Kenyan Parliament lying ?
59 posted on 01/20/2011 2:06:48 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Candor7

i’m with you bro’ don’t taze me man..........just mho


60 posted on 01/20/2011 2:07:06 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT
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