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Tony Blankley: Gingrich would be the most conservative president since Reagan
Conservative Home USA ^ | 11/26/2011 | Conservative Home USA

Posted on 11/26/2011 12:31:21 PM PST by rzman21

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To: BobL
Given something this OBVIOUS, coming from someone as smart as Newt (and he is a very smart person), I just have to wonder whether he’s some kind of Trojan Horse. Nothing else makes sense.

There is another glaring possibility that makes perfect sense.

21 posted on 11/26/2011 12:59:04 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: ez

“That’s OK, I’d rather have everybody else read it and make up their own minds instead of taking your word for it. I’m sure you’re comfortable with that.”

I’d rather have people read the DETAILS of the Krieble Plan, which Newt has said he supports COMPLETELY. I’m sure you’re ok with that.


In case anyone missed it after your spam-job, here is the key point, again:

The Krieble Plan DOES put illegals into the head of the line in that they get to live here as citizens (except not vote), work here, enjoy our benefits, have kids here, while others that didn’t sneak over are still stuck in Haiti, Sudan, and other countries. Seems like a HUGE REWARD for sneaking in...

Here’s the exact quote, starting at the very last sentence of Page 27:

“The “Red Card” would provide no path to citizenship or to permanent resident status at all. In accordance with the
founding American principle of equal opportunity under the law, anyone in the world can apply to be a U.S. citizen,
whether they are here as guest workers or not.”

http://krieble.org/Websites/krieble/Images/files/Red%20Card%20Solution%20White%20Paper.pdf


22 posted on 11/26/2011 1:00:28 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: ez

“There is another glaring possibility that makes perfect sense.”

He (Newt) is simply UNABLE to understand what America stands for and what American culture is.

Thanks, I had forgotten that possibility.


23 posted on 11/26/2011 1:02:07 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: rzman21

What a joke.

There hasn’t been one (conservative President) since Reagan.

Newt refuses to learn from Reagan who regretted amnesty.


24 posted on 11/26/2011 1:04:16 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: BobL

Can you please show me where he said he supports it? Then I will read it. There is no mention of it in his comprehensive immigration plan as outlined on his website.


25 posted on 11/26/2011 1:07:20 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: BobL
He (Newt) is simply UNABLE to understand what America stands for and what American culture is.

Seriously? You stand in judgement of Newt's ability to understand American culture? I'll let the rest of the folks digest that one.

26 posted on 11/26/2011 1:09:29 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: BobL
I notice you quoted from the Krieble site, not the Newt 2012 site. AS far as I know, nobody named Krieble is running for president. Why don't you actually read newt's whole plan before trying to mislead people about it?
27 posted on 11/26/2011 1:11:23 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: BobL
I notice you quoted from the Krieble site, not the Newt 2012 site. AS far as I know, nobody named Krieble is running for president. Why don't you actually read newt's whole plan before trying to mislead people about it?
28 posted on 11/26/2011 1:11:25 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: John W

Exactly. Does the GOP still have any conservatives?


29 posted on 11/26/2011 1:12:16 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: rzman21

That’s not really saying much.


30 posted on 11/26/2011 1:12:20 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: ez

Sorry, but Newt brought Krieble into this debate, not me. As far as I know, he has not expressed ANY problem with their plan. But feel free to correct me (with a link, of course)...

“Gingrich, citing a plan from the Vernon K. Krieble Foundation, said some of those individuals could get a “red card” allowing them to be legal, but not giving them a path to citizenship or the right the vote.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/11/26/bachmann-ratchets-up-spat-with-gingrich-over-illegal-immigration-stance/#ixzz1eqcS1ODi


31 posted on 11/26/2011 1:15:12 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: ez

“Seriously? You stand in judgement of Newt’s ability to understand American culture? I’ll let the rest of the folks digest that one. “

You asked me to name possible reasons why Newt would be in favor of the demographic destruction of this country.

Perhaps you have better ones...


32 posted on 11/26/2011 1:16:32 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: ez

Good post, but expect to get flamed and derided for posting facts instead of anit-Newt screed.


33 posted on 11/26/2011 1:19:36 PM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: montag813
that's Newt's problem: too many ideas, both very good and godawful. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to know the difference.

That is why it would imperative if Newt is elected to vote in lots of Tea-Party conservatives to Congress. Screen out the good ideas and put them into legislation.

Hopefully, Newt would appoint a strong cabinet who would not be afraid to challenge him.

34 posted on 11/26/2011 1:22:29 PM PST by CommerceComet (Governor Romney, why would any conservative vote for the author of the beta version of ObamaCare?)
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To: montag813
For every male-female illegal alien couple who come in under this plan,...

No new "male-female couples" or any other illegals will "come in under this plan" except possibly briefly and temporarily until they are caught. There will be no more 'anchor babies.'

You are one of the paranoids. You are lying to the forum and you need to stop..

35 posted on 11/26/2011 1:27:20 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: BobL
“Gingrich, citing a plan from the Vernon K. Krieble Foundation, said some of those individuals could get a “red card” allowing them to be legal, but not giving them a path to citizenship or the right the vote.”

Did he cite the plan, or endorse it, because he does not endorse it anywhere in his ten point comprehensive immigration platform. It looks like he took the essense of the Kreible idea, you will see it on his plan, and adopted it without endorsing the entire actual Kreible plan, as you have claimed.

36 posted on 11/26/2011 1:30:40 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: BobL

More paranoia. Watch out for “the Kriebles,” they’re
going to get you.... Sound like a Stephen King novel.


37 posted on 11/26/2011 1:33:33 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: ez

“It looks like he took the essense of the Kreible idea, you will see it on his plan, and adopted it without endorsing the entire actual Kreible plan, as you have claimed. “

Close enough for me. Let me know when he distances himself on that aspect of the plan.


38 posted on 11/26/2011 1:34:40 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: hinckley buzzard

“More paranoia. Watch out for “the Kriebles,” they’re
going to get you.... Sound like a Stephen King novel.”

Yea, I remember when I lived in California a while ago and my secretary kept saying “Watch out for the Mexicans, they’re going to take over”.

What an idiot she was...right?


39 posted on 11/26/2011 1:36:59 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: ez
Sure makes a difference to read his actual plan here. Glad you posted it. Too bad so many of the crackpots will refuse even to read it. They'd rather not know the truth as it would threaten their paranoid delusions about Newt secretly wanting to destroy the country! Maybe they think he is a secret agent for Obama. Stranger things have been said here the last couple weeeks.
40 posted on 11/26/2011 1:38:06 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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