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Natural Born Citizen Issue (vanity)
1/07/2012 | Blueyon

Posted on 01/07/2012 2:44:54 PM PST by blueyon

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To: Sacajaweau

I believe that was repealed in 1795.


41 posted on 01/07/2012 4:48:54 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: SatinDoll

My perception of all these lawsuits in the end was that the legislation about what constituted natural born made reference to citizen(s) intrepreted to mean both parents had to be citizens.

If George Romney was not a citizen Mitt is in exactly the same situation as Obama.

Further, remember McCain having to have some special legislation because he was born IIRC somewhere around the panama canal.


42 posted on 01/07/2012 4:53:21 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: Snoopers-868th

Aside from the fact that our Constitution & Bill of Rights are now toilet paper; this explains why nothing was done about Obama because the establishment elite decided it is Mitt’s turn./s


43 posted on 01/07/2012 5:00:20 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: SatinDoll

So how does one find out?


44 posted on 01/07/2012 5:04:44 PM PST by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: Vendome
You have to interpret the requirement in light of what our forefathers meant at the time and the 1790 legislation is very clear....BOTH PARENTS HAVE TO BE CITIZENS.

It was about loyalty back then. People took loyalty oaths all the time. We still do it today when we swear in our "leaders".

45 posted on 01/07/2012 5:13:03 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

No, no...

I got that. I was just commenting on the 1790 and parts of it being repealed in 1795.

Post on.


46 posted on 01/07/2012 5:15:03 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Snoopers-868th

If the Romneys fled Mexico in 1912 it wasn’t prior to the Mexican Revolution, it was right in the middle of it.


47 posted on 01/07/2012 5:17:09 PM PST by gusty
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To: gusty

Here is a link that talks more about it than I know.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2827439/posts?page=70#70


48 posted on 01/07/2012 5:26:26 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: blueyon

Mittens Dad was a Naturalized Citizen when Mittens was born. Mittens is a Natural Born Citizen.


49 posted on 01/07/2012 5:28:33 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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50 posted on 01/07/2012 5:29:06 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Godebert; All

Half the people here argued against the relevance of it for three years, that or ignored it. It was all the birth certificate, which I admit I got caught up in, but more to try and get rid of it as an issue. Where he was born is irrelevant. He could never have been a Natural Born Citizen, he was born a British subject.

Donofrio has a new post up! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2830073/posts?page=1


51 posted on 01/07/2012 5:31:11 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Snoopers-868th
I have always considered George Romney's citizenship to be very questionable.

The polygamous Romney family fled to Mexico after the US outlawed polygamy. They clearly intended to settle in Mexico permanently. The 1910-1920 Mexican revolution took an anti-American turn and they fled to the US with young George. He was never naturalized. Apparently, George Romney claimed US citizenship because his parents had been born in the US.

What effect this has on George's children is debatable.

52 posted on 01/07/2012 5:44:00 PM PST by iowamark
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To: Danae
"Mittens Dad was a Naturalized Citizen when Mittens was born."

People continue to assert this, but I can find few facts to support it.

Rather, it is speculated that George Romney's non-citizenship was what drove him out of the Presidential race in 1968.

I have a blog post up covering as much as I know of this.

I have an open mind on the issue, but am curious concerning the truth.

If anyone can provide anything definitive regarding George Romney's American citizenship (rather than assertions) I would be pleased to include it in the post.

53 posted on 01/07/2012 5:45:26 PM PST by wistful
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To: mlo

Fantasy? I have know all my life what a natural born Citizen is and has been since the inception of this country. It’s not a fantasy, it’s a fact.


54 posted on 01/07/2012 5:55:17 PM PST by GregNH (One Pissed Off Natural Born Citizen OPONBC)
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To: iowamark

I don’t think so: if BOTH Romney’s parents where American citizens, then Mitt is a natual born American citizen (regardless of where he was born).


55 posted on 01/07/2012 5:59:35 PM PST by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: GregNH
"Fantasy? I have know all my life what a natural born Citizen is and has been since the inception of this country. It’s not a fantasy, it’s a fact."

It is a fact that if you are born on US soil then you are a natural born citizen. If that's what you mean, then yes. If you are claiming that you've always believed that the citizenship of the parents was a factor then either your memory is faulty, or you were misinformed to start with.

56 posted on 01/07/2012 6:27:33 PM PST by mlo
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To: wistful

Well, I for one want to know CONCLUSIVELY if Mitt’s dad was or was not a citizen at the time of his birth. Because if he was NOT, then Mitt is NOT a Natural Born Citizen, any more than Obama is.

If true, that’s a HUGE deal for me.


57 posted on 01/07/2012 6:44:34 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: mlo

Great points, you’ve changed my mind.


58 posted on 01/07/2012 6:46:34 PM PST by GregNH (One Pissed Off Natural Born Citizen OPONBC)
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To: Danae; wistful

If Romney isn’t a natural born citizen, then he isn’t eligible for the office of POTUS and should not be running.


59 posted on 01/07/2012 6:47:34 PM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont

I agree 100%.

Romney should take this issue off the table NOW. Because WE KNOW NOW what to look for and why. We also KNOW Minor v. Happersett, and we know to DEMAND that the constitution be followed.

Romney should just have his people plant some honest information or links to it somewhere, so that this can be dealt with. because if it is NOT, then the question will grow.


60 posted on 01/07/2012 6:56:28 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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