Posted on 01/07/2012 2:44:54 PM PST by blueyon
http://www.flippertv.com/usnationality/
1855 Act of February 10, 1855. Section 1, 10 Stat. 604.
“All children heretofore born or hereafter born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, whose fathers were or may be at the time of their birth citizens thereof, are declared to be citizens of the United States; but the rights of citizenship shall not descend to children whose fathers never resided in the United States.”
1878 Section 1993, Revised Statutes of 1878. (Same general provisions as 1855 Act).
1907 Act of March 2, 1907, Section 6, 34 Stat. 1228, 1229.
“That all children born outside the limits of the United States who are citizens thereof in accordance with the provisions of section nineteen hundred and ninety-three of the Revised Statutes of the United States and who continue to reside outside the United States shall, in order to receive the protection of this Government, be required upon reaching the age of eighteen years to record at an American consulate their intention to become residents and remain citizens of the United States and shall be further required to take the oath of allegiance to the United States upon attaining their majority.”
...and alot of the birthers are people who can’t handle common sense and logic.
Well, there ya go!
Thanks!
We all know what a liar and dissembler Obama is. What Obama said was that the 1948 BNA “governed the children” of BHO Sr.
What the 1948 BNA actually says is that illegitimate children of UK subjects _are not_ British subjects at birth.
I believe that BHO Sr. was legally married by Kenyan tribal standards to Kezia, not a Muslim marriage, his marriage to Ann Dunham was bigamous and the INS was onto it...thus Barry was a bastard child of a US citizen and under US law did not have a legal father and received only the unitary US citizenship of his mother.
Whether this makes Barry NBC or not, lacking two US citizen parents, awaits a SCOTUS ruling. IMO the UK would not deem Barry a UK subject especially after seeing the INS files released just in time to get Barry off the hook by an Obot author.
That being the case, for me it certainly does matter where he was born because that is also in the Constitutional definition of NBC and his BC appears to be forged.
Danae’s got at least as much experience on this subject as I and well, She’s actually got way more.
Long story but, I’ll take her word, without the links.
Thought we settled that he was born a British Subject and then became Kenyan upon their Independence in 1963?
There are three types of legal citizenship recognized by our government:
native born - {jus solis} born in this country from parents subject to the jurisdiction of the United States;
derived citizenship - {jus sanguinis} born in a foreign nation of U.S. citizen parents (2}.
naturalized citizenship - foreign born person naturalizes as a U.S. citizen.
All three above are types of statutory U.S. citizenship and are eligible to serve in the U.S. Houses of Congress.
None of them, by itself, is eligible to serve as President of the United States, which requires a natural born citizen.
The only place in U.S. law that occurs is in Article II, clause 5, as an eligibility requirement for President of the U.S. (Note: natural born citizenship is not a type of statutory citizenship, only a requirement to be President.)
Minor v. Happersett provides the definition: a natural born citizen is born in the U.S.A. of citizen parents.
The problem with George Romney is simple: did his parents, who fled the United States before Utah became a state, register their son as a U.S. citizen born in Mexico with the U.S. Embassy.
See post # 61:
1907 Act of March 2, 1907, Section 6, 34 Stat. 1228, 1229.
“That all children born outside the limits of the United States who are citizens thereof in accordance with the provisions of section nineteen hundred and ninety-three of the Revised Statutes of the United States and who continue to reside outside the United States shall, in order to receive the protection of this Government, be required upon reaching the age of eighteen years to record at an American consulate their intention to become residents and remain citizens of the United States and shall be further required to take the oath of allegiance to the United States upon attaining their majority.”
Thank you, Seizethecarp, for your research abilities.
But was his Father a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN?
When George Romney's parents fled the United States with their children because of the federal government's opposition to polygamy they did not lose their American citizenship.
Gaskell Romney, George Romney's father, was born on September, 22 1871, in St. George, Washington, Utah. He's an American citizen by birth.
Anna Amelia Pratt Romney, George Romney's mother, was born on May 6, 1876, in Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah. She's an American citizen by birth and marriage -- remember this is pre-19th Amendment, when a woman's citizenship was derived from her husband's.
Mitt Romney's parents were both American citizens when Mitt was born in Detroit, Michigan on March 12, 1947.
One thing that ther Mormons get right is genealogy.
Mitt Romney was born in the USA (jus solis) of American citizen parents (Jus sanguinis) and is eligible to serve as POTUS.
Belive me, if he wasn't, you'd read it here first.
His father is not running for president.
That is just soooooooo wrong.
Per Leo Donofrio, this indicates that the CRS memo generated by Jack Maskell was for justifying BO's tenure in office and wasn't honest legal scholarship about citizenship at all.
The 14th Amendment mentions the term natural born Citizen exactly zero times. Zilch, Nada, not once!
Take your obamite propaganda and shove it.
Don't mistake my opinion for being pro-Obama. If you do, you will be sadly mistaken. And don't be rude. I haven't deserved rudeness from you.
That is correct. Puposefully misleading, or lying to Congress, has serious consequences like prison time.
Jac Maskell better have a foreign bolt hole after Nov. 2012.
Actually the relevant text on NBC the law of nations, would differ with your take, as would the founding Fathers. The founders were worried about allegiance, thus the NBC wording in the constitution. They would have stated that any one with a father who was not a citizen at the time of their birth would not be an NBC, a citizen possibly but not a NBC.
At the time of the writing of the constitution citizenship flowed from the father. Location had no control on the issue. In fact there are only 14 countries that allow birthright citizenship, and all but the USA need to increase their population.
And as to the 14th amendment, it has not been applied as intended, and the authors would have told you that being here illegally and squirting out a child would not have conferred citizenship on that child. The specific reason for the 14th amendment was to force the democrats to recognize slaves as citizens.
How do you know George R was US citizen at time of Mitt’s bierth?
George was born in Mexico, subject to Mexican jurisdiction. Unless there was a US law that states that a child born to US citizen parents anywhere, even outside of USA, is a US citizen, George is a Mexican! In that case, he has to naturalize when brought back to USA to be a US citizen! If he was never naturalized prior to Mitt’s birth, Mitt is NOT a nbc!
An nbc is one born on US soil to 2 US citizen parentS
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