Posted on 08/23/2012 9:23:59 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative
Interesting read, ping for later...
This is nonsense - there is a large segment of the male homosexual population that is ultra macho or butch or whatever you want to call it - who are bodybuilders, cops, lumberjacks, etc.
“Is homosexuality just an extreme r-type development of the amygdala?”
Perhaps...but how could it be determined that such connections were not established through repeated use?
(the exercise of homosex)
IIRC, the researcher who initially wrote breathtakingly about the ‘enlargement’ of the 7th(?) interstitial nucleus of the amygdala...that they continue to clutch to their dark breasts as a reason to howl; “NATURE! NATURE!” ???
Right, he was a homosexual.
Nice try, but no - there is no “gay gene(s)” out there.
I’d be surprised if there isn’t an epigenetic component to homosexuality that enters in AFTER a person has already started down that path.
“I have always been struck by the feminine nature of the modern Liberal male...”
So have I.
Now in your estimate, when will there be a shift, so that the conservative type begins once more to dominate?
“This is nonsense - there is a large segment of the male homosexual population that is ultra macho or butch or whatever you want to call it - who are bodybuilders, cops, lumberjacks, etc.”
Not really nonsense if you examine a bit more closely.
These macho-butch gay men fall into 2 camps:
1. Those who are over-compensating for femininity by yearning for, and imitating, the macho types (cops, Marines, body-builders)
2. The truly macho men who would not have been “gay” in another era, but are tempted to take advantage of the willing guys out there in the open now.
There is research which indicates the changes begin in the womb, possibly relating to stress reactivity affecting genetic expression in the mother.
Again, the brain is a complicated organ, and you will get all manner of variation, but that is the point. Much of homosexuality may just be the outliers of the r-strategy, whose development overshot the mark.
If my read of this is right, the r-strategy is blooming in our species due to free resource availability, and it will wane as resources again become limited very soon, and the environment turns more K-selective.
The gist is, if we are forced to compete for resources, we become practical conservatives, probably due to a mixture of amygdala development (from confronting threatening, fear provoking stimuli, and learning (developing neurological pathways) and up-regulation of cell-surface dopamine receptor densities (in response to a reduced amount of dopamine released).
If resources become freely available, dopamine is everywhere all the time, receptor densities are reduced through transcriptional down-regulation, and our amygdala doesn’t learn that there are consequences to non-conservative behaviors, and attach aversive stimulus to them.
Let us enter a depression for a decade or more, where people have to bust ass just to survive, and often feel as if they will fall short of that mark. They’ll be a lot less amenable to the Liberal who tells them we need to give every welfarite a free cellphone a 500 test messages per month, or the the Liberal who tells them we need to give all our wealth to the developing world, because all our comfort was obtained unfairly. Their amygdala will have a potent aversive stimulus attached to those concepts, and it will drive the willingness to fight them, which is so lacking today, ironically due to our comfort.
I firmly believe all of politics can easily be understood through r/K selection.
“male homosexual population that is ultra macho or butch or whatever you want to call it “
All I can do is point to the two studies, and others like them, showing reduced aggression/competitiveness. If you have competitng studies, lay them on me.
Indeed but it is fake like a costume....a facade
Not genuine or natural masculinity
However within homosexuality there are twinks and bears
“I’d be surprised if there isn’t an epigenetic component to homosexuality that enters in AFTER a person has already started down that path.”
There actually is evidence for genetic causes, though they are probably predispositions, enahnced by epigenetic effects in the womb due to maternal stress reactivity.
There definitely are masculine homosexuals, many of them are disgusted by effeminate men, the masculine homosexuals revel in the superiority of the male, and see females and effeminates as lower life forms.
Not to stray off-topic, but your work is mind-blowingly uncanny, accurate, timely and relevant. Bravo. I hope you acquire fame and fortune from it - it will be well-deserved.
I was just reading a section of your site, and not only is your hypothesis/theory regarding Narcissism and its link to Liberalism right on the mark, but I have actually had the same experience wherein a relative who is of the liberal-narcissist-homosexual persuasion would seem to lose the ability to think, speak, reason, when confronted by my own opinions.
Interestingly, Scott Peck in his work, “People of the Lie” designated a certain constellation of neurotic traits coupled with Narcissism as “Evil”. He theorized that one of the traits of such evil persons would be to become confused and have a schizoid break when confronted with their own self-deception. This was borne out in therapy sessions with patients he believed were evil. Very akin to your relative with the quasi-stroke. Peck believed the condition was genetic.
Thank you - ah, yes, now I recall you informing me of this a couple months ago; I just needed reminding of the logic of it. Makes one very eager for global depression and global war, I must admit, if only to get the species back in form again, and out of the ditch of narcissism we’ve been stuck in for 4 decades.
Wow, thank you for that. I will definitely check out Peck’s book. Crossing paths with such a character is definitely a unique experience. Those of us who knew the guy I wrote about have actualy spent a lot of time sitting together just marveling at how he was “pure evil,” without a single ameliorating trait.
What always amazed me the most is how he knew how to mimic normalcy with strangers. It really would have been easier for him to just do that 24/7, but he didn’t want to. Very weird.
Thanks again.
Holy crap! You just made my brain explode into a colorful shower of Skittles!
Actually, now that you mention it, I do recall reading a 19th century work on that type of homosexual male. I would tend to admire that type, and not class them in with the trouble-making gay agenda.
Blogging on FR done right. No excerpting, and lots of words I don’t understand!
Most truly welcome. (By the way, this “mimicry of normalcy” is also a defining trait of the narcissist (who is of the liberal political camp 99% of the time) and has been described by narcissism experts as “passing for human”. Apt description.)
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