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Neurological Correlates of Political Ideology and Homosexuality
Anonymous Conservative Website ^ | August 22, 2012 | Anonymous Conservative

Posted on 08/23/2012 9:23:59 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative

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To: scottjewell; AnonymousConservative

If genetic, then there must be some evolutionary advantage to being pure evil, just as there is clearly one for being somewhat good.


21 posted on 08/23/2012 10:24:03 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Funny but creepy!)
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To: Lazamataz

Perhaps, but what if it is an anomaly like schizophrenia? It may have some adaptive purposes while being also something akin to disease or malformation. In fact, Dr. Peck believe there was a correlation of schizophrenic family history and those who he termed “people of the lie”: evil narcissists.


22 posted on 08/23/2012 10:32:49 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Lazamataz

I think the evolutionary advantage to good arises in conditions of resource scarcity. The more selflessly you, I, and Humblegunner work together, the better a team we make, and the greater our advantage over the other teams.

If, however, resources are everywhere then there is no disadvantage to me screwing you and Humblegunner, as I will always be able to get resources elsewhere without you, and I get the short term advantage of having screwed you. (As in r-selection. Think of the rabbit who is the quintessential r-selected organism. Each rabbit exists in a field of grass it will never begin to fully consume.)

This is why you only find animals which care for each other as you get towards the K-selected end of the spectrum. Elephants, dolphins, wolves, etc. As you go more towards the r-selected side, you get deer, rabbits, mice etc, and there is no attachment between individuals. Deer don’t feel bad looking at the body of a comrade.

Basically you only get caring and good when you get a team, and you only get a team if resources are limited, and individuals have to form a team to compete effectively for them.

In that vein, good seeing you around, brother.


23 posted on 08/23/2012 10:39:06 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: Yashcheritsiy; little jeremiah; antceecee
Nice try, but no - there is no “gay gene(s)” out there.

You are 100% correct. The homosexualists will stoop to any level to justify their deathstyle choice. Sodomites deliberately make the decision to engage in their deviant behavior. With Christian counseling and the power of prayer, sodomy can be and has been reversed and normalcy restored. God does not make sodomites and all the junk "science" masked by flowery, polysyllabic terms, doesn't change that.

Similarly, I have long disagreed with Berkeley-educated Michael Alan Weiner (who uses the pseudonym of Michael Savage in his guise as an entertainer) claim's that liberalism is a mental disorder. That only serves to give such evil a pass by attributing one's leftist stance as a genetic disorder. Like sodomites, liberals aren't born that way. God does not make liberals for they deliberately and maliciously choose to disobey their Creator by adopting the atheistic philosophy of the left.

Vile sinners such as Barney Frank were by no means born with a defect that led them to sodomy or liberalism. It was a conscious decision on their part to disobey Almighty God. The Lord gives us free will to choose the Right path or follow the broad highway of immorality paved by Satan. With Christian counseling and powerful prayer (lots and lots of it in this case), even the repulsive Barney Frank can be transformed to become a Servant of God. Though it's unlikely in his case because Barney Frank has hardened his heart, the rejoicing both in Heaven and here on Earth would be awesome if such a purveyor of evil were redeemed.

24 posted on 08/23/2012 10:40:25 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: AnonymousConservative

“There actually is evidence for genetic causes, though they are probably predispositions, enahnced by epigenetic effects in the womb due to maternal stress reactivity.”

No there isn’t. Behavioral genetics is a complete bust, and it’s becoming more apparent with every additional dollar we toss down a rat hole investigating them.

http://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/GeneWatch/GeneWatchPage.aspx?pageId=384

http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0020212


25 posted on 08/23/2012 10:40:52 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: scottjewell

But they are nevertheless part and parcel of the gay agenda.


26 posted on 08/23/2012 10:44:28 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: AnonymousConservative

100% utter junk science pushed by homosexuals.


27 posted on 08/23/2012 10:46:15 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: kabumpo

Oh, Bevis...and I thought you were so butch!
/monty python reference


28 posted on 08/23/2012 10:47:30 AM PDT by Conservaliberty (I've written over 200 pages for a novel. But I didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: scottjewell

Don’t agree. Because I work in the arts I’m very familiar with the spectrum of the homosexual lifestyle - and its history. There have always been macho types (like Rock Hudson), in between types (like Montgomery Clift) and overtly femme types like Truman Capote. It goes back to the ancient Greeks.


29 posted on 08/23/2012 10:54:22 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: AnonymousConservative
I think the evolutionary advantage to good arises in conditions of resource scarcity. The more selflessly you, I, and Humblegunner work together, the better a team we make, and the greater our advantage over the other teams.

If, however, resources are everywhere then there is no disadvantage to me screwing you and Humblegunner, as I will always be able to get resources elsewhere without you, and I get the short term advantage of having screwed you. (As in r-selection. Think of the rabbit who is the quintessential r-selected organism. Each rabbit exists in a field of grass it will never begin to fully consume.)

Interesting. I have developed a theory that morality is enhanced by scarcity. Note how, when civilizations have surpluses, they tend towards the immoral, and the hedonistic (Rome in antiquity, Europe in the 1700's, and America now are good examples). Your theorum correlates to mine.

30 posted on 08/23/2012 10:54:45 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Funny but creepy!)
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To: AnonymousConservative

So, seemingly, those gays who insist that being gay isn’t a choice may be right...but given thatwe are a k-selected species, why then should we turn our culteral norms on their head to satisfy the whims of these quite abnornal people?

Feel sorry for them, yes. Make sure that they aren’t discriminated against, of course. But let the abnormal run society? No way!


31 posted on 08/23/2012 10:56:07 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: AnonymousConservative
Interesting
32 posted on 08/23/2012 10:58:50 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Word Is Out,Harry Reid's Into Child Porn.Release All Your Photos,Harry!)
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To: All

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in before the pimp my blog

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33 posted on 08/23/2012 10:59:28 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Lazamataz

Your theory is absolutely right, IMO. The ironic part is the scarcity, in creating morality and societal functionality, produces excess, which then destroys it all, producing scarcity, which then restarts the cycle.

BTW, love the tag.


34 posted on 08/23/2012 11:10:21 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: longtermmemmory
100% utter junk science pushed by homosexuals.

Liberalism, atheism and homosexualism have long formed an unholy trinity, engaging their so-called "science" to raise doubts about Almighty God. More recently, that assemblage of leftists has brought the AGW thugs into their fold to push the myth of "global warming" down our throats.

Isn't it strange how these godless liberals are so quick to attribute the sins of sodomy and liberalism to genetic factors but so rapidly dismiss any possible role of genetics when it comes to racial differences? Charles Murray and Richard J. Herrnstein used rigorous science in the landmark book, The Bell Curve but the leftists in academia noisily dismissed their well-documented findings. Yet the futile search goes on by these pseudo-scientists to find anything, anything at all to dismiss the role of free will for choosing homosexuality and and its twin sin of atheistic liberalism.

35 posted on 08/23/2012 11:11:05 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: AnonymousConservative

“the brain is a complicated organ”

Indeed sir.
The most complicated of all.
One researcher said; “We’ll never understand it.”


36 posted on 08/23/2012 11:15:00 AM PDT by spankalib (The downside of liberty is the need to tolerate those who despise it.)
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To: Ancesthntr

You and I could be twin brothers on this.

That is basically my entire point with all of this. If we look at K-seleced behavioral drives, we see all that we recognize innately as good. Competitiveness and loyalty to group(be it family, or nation), monogamy and high-investment two-parent rearing to produce children with more opportunity. Later age of first intercourse, so girls find the best guy available, when they are at maximum maturity and perceptiveness.

Viewed through the K-selection prism, all of Conservatism’s values suddenly have clear, purpose, and are purely good. By contrast, the Liberal’s r-selected values are exaclty the opposite of our species normal desires.


37 posted on 08/23/2012 11:15:48 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: longtermmemmory

I’ve seen you around, and though you don’t know me, we would get along well. I am not supporting the gay agenda with this post. Reread the post. It is a scientific examination of how gays may just be “super Liberals,” based of r/K Selection, and the neurobiology. Even the genetics is a very small part of it, which the theorem could probably stand on it’s own without.

On behavioral genetics, bear in mind all of Liberalism wants to assert the “Blank Slate Theory.” If everyone is equal at birth, the Liberal can say that the only reason you have success and someone else doesn’t is that you had an unfair advantage. That then allows the Liberal to justify using government to correct that unfair advantage.

Nothing terrifies the Liberal more than the idea that some people are just smarter than others, or better adapted to society, and can therefore contribute more to society.

It is why so many on the right are promoting Human Biodiversity, and why the Left hates it.


38 posted on 08/23/2012 11:21:51 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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39 posted on 08/23/2012 11:27:27 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: AnonymousConservative
...all of Conservatism’s values suddenly have clear, purpose, and are purely good. By contrast, the Liberal’s r-selected values are exactly the opposite of our species normal desires.

I'm an old-school, hardliner on the issue of liberalism and sodomy as you may see from my prior posts in this thread. In my estimation, you are absolutely correct about the "pure goodness" of Conservatism and its polar opposite of evil inherent in all manifestations of liberalism, be they called Marxism, Nazism, Islam, homosexualism or atheism.

I'll go so far as to make this statement: The intersection between liberals and Christians forms the null set. To be fair, not all Conservatives are necessarily Christian but all genuine Christians are in fact Conservative.

40 posted on 08/23/2012 11:29:19 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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