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Dem proposes taxing drivers by the mile
The Hill ^ | December 4, 2013 | Pete Kasperowicz

Posted on 12/04/2013 9:38:08 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: svcw

Actually this is another amusing example of unintended consequences.

The government both has a gas tax, and uses the utter stupidity of CAFE standards to up gas mileage. Well as the CAFE standards numbers get pushed higher and higher, the gas tax revenue falls, and that start screaming.

The concept of a mileage tax is really something targeted at all the hybrid and electric car owners. While I do despise all taxes, I do like the idea of the greens taking it in the shorts.


41 posted on 12/04/2013 10:12:34 AM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The day after they passed a vehicle per-mile tax, I’d adopt the Metric System...


42 posted on 12/04/2013 10:18:04 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Oh ... and one other option in the authorities bag of tricks - like they do in Oklahoma right now (for insurance issues).

A policeman removes your license plates (i.e., confiscates the plates), and puts on a TEMPORARY PLATE which expires in 10 days. You have those ten days to solve the problem with the authorities. If you pass that time and continue to drive the car on the road, a policeman stops you, tows the car and might put you in jail, too.

Again ... have your bail bondsman on speed dial ... :-) ...


43 posted on 12/04/2013 10:18:08 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: TexasCajun

There’s a few technical issues associated with older non-computer or OBD1 vehicles. Newer vehicles are fair game since the automakers will go belly up for the feds. Locally GPS units don’t work well. The maps aren’t correct.


44 posted on 12/04/2013 10:21:41 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

VTM abbreviation for Vomit.


45 posted on 12/04/2013 10:24:34 AM PST by Gasshog (These introductions of non-native species have consequences, like allowing Obama back into the U.S.)
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To: Star Traveler

You seem to think there are no options but bending over and capitulating to the whims of your government overloads and their blue shirted lackeys. That’s no way to go through life.


46 posted on 12/04/2013 10:27:23 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority...")
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To: Baynative

“He is also working on how to tax oxygen consumption.”

PPACA - A tax just because you exist!


47 posted on 12/04/2013 10:27:29 AM PST by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It seems that I recall an argument (his?) that electric vehicles don’t pay their fair share to the Dept. of Transportation. Similar situation with natural gas, propane, alcohol, etc.
This caused quite a wailing and gnashing of teeth from the “Green” crowd (his constituency), and was quietly dropped by this Lib-o-crat.


48 posted on 12/04/2013 10:29:47 AM PST by HippyLoggerBiker (Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

No ... you do have options, which amounts to sitting in jail or having a car towed. That’s how it’s worked for all my life of driving.

If someone doesn’t pay tickets, and they stack up, you’ll find a warrant for your arrest issued. If you have other kinds of tickets (say ... “on your car” ... like parking tickets are) ... many times people find their car has been impounded and to get it out of the impound yard, you have to pay all the fines, late costs, court costs and then the impound fee.

I don’t know where you been all these past decades — but this is pretty standard stuff. There’s nothing new here.


49 posted on 12/04/2013 10:33:10 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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50 posted on 12/04/2013 10:47:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: HippyLoggerBiker

Yes, that’s it exactly. Gas taxes are progressive in nature: they functionally operate on a sliding scale where dirvers of lowe MPG cars pay more on a per mile basis.

A VMT is a flat rate. The smug little pr*ck down the street who has a Prius with a vanity plate reading “62 MPG” pays as much per mile as my SUV does.

Assuming direct replacement AND no real time/black box tracking, it’s a great idea IMHO.


51 posted on 12/04/2013 10:48:06 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: HippyLoggerBiker

Actually, what would be even better/more fair given all the cities that are putting in dedicated bike lanes, is to tax bicyclists on a per-mile basis as well.


52 posted on 12/04/2013 10:51:35 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If they instituted a tax by the mile for electric car owners only.....I have no problem with that. If I have to pay for the roads, etc. so should they.


53 posted on 12/04/2013 11:35:55 AM PST by sheana
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

As long as we can tax them for the miles they fly everywhere.


54 posted on 12/04/2013 11:57:23 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cin, just how much will they raise it when people start driving even less? These morons can’t think past the 70’s, and that’s giving them an awful lot of credit!

Dizzying, once again. :) Getting a little tipsy dealing with these hacks!


55 posted on 12/04/2013 12:23:17 PM PST by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What is the matter Earl? Don’t you like the CAFE standards you democrats force on us?


56 posted on 12/04/2013 1:29:28 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

we will get this plus the gas tax

crazy


57 posted on 12/04/2013 1:30:49 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Navy Patriot

mileage taxes are an attack on those of us who actually WORK!


58 posted on 12/05/2013 8:06:57 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: rainee
the Oregone voters are insane.....so this guy wants to tax us on the miles we drive PLUS increase the already absurd gas tax....
59 posted on 12/05/2013 8:11:13 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: KarlInOhio

we can’t give them an inch...not one inch.....this crackpot idea will never “replace” the obscene gas tax...it’ll be in addition...


60 posted on 12/05/2013 8:16:57 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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