Posted on 11/09/2014 2:26:34 PM PST by marktwain
The crazy liberals shooting up schools wanted to blame guns instead of themselves, just like tobacco smokers persuaded it was Big Tobacco’s fault.
Now when Adam Lanza steals a gun to shoot, he will get mental health and the gun owner jail for weapon transfer or recklessness.
The crazy liberals shooting up schools wanted to blame guns instead of themselves, just like tobacco smokers persuaded it was Big Tobacco’s fault.
Now when Adam Lanza steals a gun to shoot, he will get mental health and the gun owner jail for weapon transfer or recklessness.
I.e we are looking at genocide.
If SCOTUS has any integrity whatsoever, it will strike down this law and all other gun control laws as unconstitutional. Sooner or later, We The People will need to teach gun-grabbers a lesson they won’t be able to forget; waiting for them to burn in hellfire is not enough.
Also, note the Microsoft money poured into this campaign. Coupled with MS support for Communist Core, I think it’s safe to say that we should all avoid giving money to MS and any other criminal enterprises which support pro-criminal legislation.
My BIL, who lives here says that I-594 is a slippery slope, as are all "common sense" gun laws.
I understand the I-594 law requires back ground checks on private sales, ie. selling to a relative, a friend.
This doesn't seem to be very enforceable. How they going to know?
I hope the NRA and other gun rights organizations fight this—and fight it hard.
Otherwise, this will set a pattern for the fascists to continue their march toward forcing Americans into serfdom.
I spoke with a guy yesterday who was heartsick - he had mistakenly voted FOR I-594 and AGAINST I-591. He got them mixed up. I recognized this as a possible outcome from the outset and wonder how many others were similarly confused.
this is our democracy....the golden rule...them that gots the gold, rule....anything they want....
no doubt they'll turn to something else in this state now...we got the pot,we got the gun control, next we'll be voting on assisted suicide....then probably infanticide...
people are stupid...and you can't cure that....
I hope it gets trashed in the courts like it should be....
how can the selling or giving or donating a firearm be any business of the govt...it can't...
you can’t even “give” away a gun to your grandson...forbidden....
Maine is a strong 2nd Amendment state....these gun grabbers will get a fight if they to pull this crap here.
Also, the crime rate here is very low.
Thirdly, we just re-elected our pro-second amendment governor, Paul LePage, to a second term. He is very outspoken and doesn’t take crap from anyone.
Here in Washington state they ran constant TV ads talking about women being killed by husbands and boyfriends.
In reality, only 18 percent of women killed by domestic violence are killed by guns. The majority are strangled or beaten to death.
Women would be better off to own a gun to defend themselves. And what about if somebody is being beaten to death, a friend/neighbor who does not own a gun rushes over, knows where their friend hides a gun and dispatches the would-be murderer?
So here the survivor of the attack would have created a felony by transferring the gun to his/her saviour neighbor.
Replace the neighbor with a child or grandchild attacking the would-be murderer. Another felony.
Victim’s choice: either go ahead and get killed or go to prison.
This is an important topic — thanks for posting this.
Like many here, I’m concerned about the way this law will make felons out of good people (while not bothering the bad guys).
Luckily, I believe this kind of ballot initiative can’t happen in a majority of states. That leaves a minority to worry about.
Not true. In fact there are many loopholes for "temporary transfers".
Hypothetical situation:
You and your BIL are at the range. You each have your own firearms, but want to try one or more of the other’s.
Unless you have had a background check for each time you hand your pistol to him or vice-versa, you are BOTH breaking the law.
591 was the same law in limbo, waiting for a federal background check law.
What a load of crap! Seriously?
How are they proposing to enforce this? Any ideas?
Selectively, which is how fascism works. They're not going to be raiding any shooting ranges to see that nobody touches a gun who isn't the sole owner. What they will do is use it against people they want to harass for something else.
It was very confusiing, and the for and against arguments and individuals were not clear. The education initiative had for by La Raza, against by various people including an army Colonel. Very clear.
I am an out of state military voter, I had to call my dad to figure out which way to vote on each of the gun votes. He keeps up with this type of thing, but for those who don’t, it was not clear at all which side your views lined up with.
(Former military, now military spouse. One good thing I will say for Washington State, they always send out their military ballots in time for elections and in compliance with the law. In fact, they send them out so early I have to wait a few weeks until I can ask relatives or look online to make an informed vote for the smaller races or unclear initiatives like this.)
Thanks for the chart. What a nightmare — lawful gun owners in all other states should take a look at this and be afraid.
You can gift a gun to a close relative - but you may be right - not to a grandson. (So - gift to the dad that then gifts to the grandson).
However, if you want to go shooting with your son or grandson, you can’t loan them your gun at the shooting range! Gifts are okay, transfers (not just sales) are illegal.
But - like one poster said - who will enforce it? I suppose the gun range could be held liable somehow, and will be forced to come up with some way of enforcing it.
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