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Non-Vet Donald Trump Insists Military School Is the Same As Military Service
Esquire ^ | Sep 8, 2015 | Matt Miller

Posted on 09/08/2015 7:34:39 PM PDT by familyop

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To: familyop

This is a dumb question, but what exactly are military schools? Are they actually connected to the US Armed Forces in someway?


41 posted on 09/08/2015 8:17:04 PM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

The liberals are petrified of Trump. Expect lot more hit pieces all the way until Tuesday November 1, 2016.

Also scared are are GOP pundits, GOP Advisers (Karl Rove etc) making a great living. Because Trump employs very few advisers.


42 posted on 09/08/2015 8:18:11 PM PDT by entropy12 (Trump is incorruptible. He is the only candidate without rich donors.)
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To: basil

“No, Mr. Trump—going to Military School is NOT the same as being in the service.”

Actually, it kind of is...

Navy Vet.


43 posted on 09/08/2015 8:19:05 PM PDT by babygene (I'm one of the 9.4 million War Heroes that served during the Vietnam war..../s)
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To: familyop
unlike the brave boychick in the white hut that saw a war movie once
44 posted on 09/08/2015 8:19:14 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: babygene

In the sense that you learn discipline, teamwork, and dedication to the whole, rather than self going to a military school teaches similar foundations.

That said, when you attend a military college you don’t get shot at. And you are a million times likely to be killed by a drunk driver than an IED.

And wearing the uniforms is spiffy.


45 posted on 09/08/2015 8:24:23 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: UCANSEE2

That movie came out between my Junior and Senior years at Norwich.

We had a good chuckle over it.


46 posted on 09/08/2015 8:27:05 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: JohnBrowdie
"I wonder if any of the students at HairTard Military Academy were ever 'captured' in study hall. He only likes people that weren’t 'captured'."

Probably so. Some parents with kids who show criminal tendencies used military schools for boys as soft reform schools to try to straighten them out. I knew some of those families. They were somewhat wealthy, immoral and involved in organized corruption.


47 posted on 09/08/2015 8:28:05 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: MNDude

He went to a military high school. They are several splattered around PA or Va for example.

There are several major college schools which are not affiliated with a single service. They are Norwich, Citdel, VMI, and Texas A&M. There are also Maritime schools such as Mass Maritime and Maine Maritime.

For the colleges ROTC is sometimes built into the curriculum.


48 posted on 09/08/2015 8:30:48 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

The Citadel.

Sorry for the misspelling.


49 posted on 09/08/2015 8:32:04 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: familyop

I still know what to do about a sucking chest wound.
Call me if you need me.


50 posted on 09/08/2015 8:32:58 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: boycott
Esquire? .... Penthouse letters have more credibility.

And they are better written and more fun to read :-)

51 posted on 09/08/2015 8:35:08 PM PDT by Bobalu (See my freep page for political images.)
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To: Vermont Lt

“That said, when you attend a military college you don’t get shot at. And you are a million times likely to be killed by a drunk driver than an IED.”

I went to Navy boot camp in the fall of ‘62, and served 4 years in school and on ships.

Never once did I get shot at...

And. I have a 30% disability from my service.


52 posted on 09/08/2015 8:35:32 PM PDT by babygene (I'm one of the 9.4 million War Heroes that served during the Vietnam war..../s)
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To: babygene

I got shot t once in college. But they weren’t aiming at me, so I guess it doesn’t count. Still scared the hell out of me.


53 posted on 09/08/2015 8:37:42 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: MNDude
"This is a dumb question, but what exactly are military schools? Are they actually connected to the US Armed Forces in someway?"

That's a smart question. Such schools are only an emulation of military service in some outward appearances. See my comment #47. My military service was brutal all of the way through, and it was only training. Quite a few died, and many were seriously injured.


54 posted on 09/08/2015 8:40:53 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: babygene

But Trump will get jobs for the Vets Obama fired from the military, Trump will get them the medical care Obama hasn’t.

No he isn’t IKE, but he is just as comfortable on the golf course, and is a very quick learner.


55 posted on 09/08/2015 8:42:20 PM PDT by Zenjitsuman (A)
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To: familyop

“He arrived at the military academy — where tuition now reaches $31,000 a year — for eighth grade in 1959 and remained for high school.”

Interesting sentence. NYT uses 2015 dollar to illustrate how exclusive the school was in 1959.

That said, Comparing military school to the military was a stupid thing for Trump to do.
No excuse. And yes I am a Trump supporter.


56 posted on 09/08/2015 8:45:41 PM PDT by Tupelo (Trump is no Reagan, but he is a fighter.")
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To: MNDude

Only a couple of them. Most are just private boarding schools that use a military style hierarchy in order to teach strict self-discipline and leadership. We can’t afford the 60,000 per year, or I would send my oldest son full time. He attends during the summer for one semester every year. Often, people associate military academy with troubled kids who are sent there for punishment. In reality, there are a few, but they are mostly kids with rich parents. Most of these places don’t turn out unskilled laborers or felons, it takes a lot of hard work to keep in the programs. Some schools are better than others, I’m sure. Our son was terrified his first year, I had to practically hog tie him to get him in the car for the 800 mile trip there. Now, all he wants is to go back, it’s all he talks about. It was tough and he learned he could do it, he learned how strong he could be when he had to. Parents can be a bad influence, and I’m no exception. It gives him a real perspective on the challenges of life, self-discipline, proper respect for authority and complete separation from x-box, TV, ipod and other bad influences of life. It is very demanding both physically and academically. And the war games... he lives for it. Especially the 4 team paintball drills. They have one every year that lasts for 72 hours straight, survive or finish the 3 day event doing PT.


57 posted on 09/08/2015 8:48:16 PM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: familyop

No, we were not being shot at by the enemy, but
nevertheless, training is not inherently safe.
A dozen or so died in training units I was in over 6 years.
By drowning, vehicle roll-overs, and lightning strikes.


58 posted on 09/08/2015 8:50:49 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: Chgogal

The military academy that Trump attended for five years is a very tough academy. Trump has often said the discipline instilled in him at the military academy is what made him the man he is today and he can’t imagine how his life might have turned out of he hadn’t attended.

http://www.nyma.org/page.cfm?p=382

NYMA Cadet Creed

I am a New York Military Academy Cadet.
I will always conduct myself to bring credit to
my Family, Country, Academy and the Corps of Cadets.
I am loyal and patriotic. I am the future of my country.
I do not lie, cheat, or steal or tolerate those who do,
and I will always be accountable for my actions and deeds.
I will always practice good citizenship and patriotism.
I will work hard to improve my mind and strengthen my body.
I will seek the mantle of leadership and stand prepared to “Do what’s right”
In upholding the way of life for a New York Military Academy Cadet.
May God grant me the strength to always live by this creed.


59 posted on 09/08/2015 8:51:59 PM PDT by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: entropy12

I thought we were beyond the era of judging a candidate by whether he served in Vietnam or not.


60 posted on 09/08/2015 8:55:36 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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