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Calling all neoconservatives and those who have general animus toward Russia
My Fetid Mind | July 16th, 2018 | Mariner

Posted on 07/16/2018 7:30:08 PM PDT by Mariner

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To: Mariner
Thanks for posting this very relevant question. It caused me to examine the reality of my own conservatism and confront the reasons why there is such distrust of individuals within the Republican party. I came across what I consider an excellent quiz about where I stand as a conservative. I am pretty convinced my 86% paleoconservative score is an accurate political picture of myself.

What kind of conservative are you ?

Perhaps others would like to take the quiz. I hope this HTML correct.

41 posted on 07/17/2018 6:08:45 AM PDT by scottiemom (As a retired Texas public school teacher, I highly recommend private school.)
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To: Mariner

Donald Trump: ‘Putin has eaten Obama’s lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time’

Mar 13, 2014
Eun Kyung Kim: TODAY SHOW (NBC)

Donald Trump slammed President Obama Thursday on TODAY for failing to take a stronger line against President Vladimir Putin in dealing with Ukraine, saying he feared Obama would now make up for lost time with imprudent moves to “show his manhood.”

The real estate mogul and reality-TV star, who has criticized Putin for sending military troops into Crimea, said Obama must now take fierce steps to prevent the situation from escalating further.

“We should definitely do sanctions and we have to show some strengths. I mean, Putin has eaten Obama’s lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time,” Trump said. ...”

http://www.today.com/news/donald-trump-putin-has-eaten-obamas-lunch-ukraine-2D79372098
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Here’s the interview w/ Matt Lauer on YouTube...

Donald Trump (2014): ‘Vladimir Putin Has Eaten Obama’s Lunch’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzURUENf1ns

42 posted on 07/17/2018 6:42:35 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: Mariner
JULY 2017...

Trump, in Warsaw Speech, Criticizes Russia’s ‘Destabilizing’ Role in Ukraine, Syria

The president also reaffirmed his commitment to NATO’s mutual-defense pact

Jul 6, 2017

President Trump called Russia a “destabilizing” influence in Europe and the Middle East, and urged it to “join the community of responsible nations,” in his strongest remarks yet against the regime of Vladimir Putin, whom he is scheduled to meet Friday in Hamburg for the first time.

His remarks in Warsaw’s Krasinski Square, which marks the 1944 Warsaw uprising against the Nazis, came after the U.S. agreed to sell Patriot missiles to Poland. The president also used the opportunity to reiterate the NATO commitment to mutual defense, a declaration he did not make during the NATO summit in May, prompting consternation among U.S. allies wary of Russia’s ambitions.

“To those who would criticize our tough stance, I would point out that the United States has demonstrated—not merely with its words but with its actions—that we stand firmly behind Article 5, the mutual-defense commitment,” Trump said Thursday. “Words are easy, but actions are what matters. And for its own protection, Europe, and you know this, everybody knows this, everybody has to know this, Europe must do more.”

Trump has repeatedly said NATO members must spend more on defense—a position in line with past U.S. administrations. But he has been criticized because he appeared to suggest U.S. commitment to mutual defense was predicated on its allies’ defense spending. ...”

https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2017/07/trump-russia/532761/

43 posted on 07/17/2018 6:43:33 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: Mariner
Vice President Pence on Russia:
(from the VP debate on Oct 5, 2016)

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“What we’re dealing with is the — you know, there’s an old proverb that says the Russian bear never dies, it just hibernates.

And the truth of the matter is, the weak and feckless foreign policy of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama has awakened an aggression in Russia that first appeared a few years ago with their move in Georgia, now their move into Crimea, now their move into the wider Middle East.

44 posted on 07/17/2018 6:45:39 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: All
“The web brigades, also known as Russia’s troll army, Russian bots, Kremlinbots,[1] troll factory,[2][3] or troll farms are state-sponsored anonymous Internet political commentators and trolls linked to the Russian government.

Participants report that they are organized into teams and groups of commentators that participate in Russian and international political blogs and Internet forums using sockpuppets and large-scale orchestrated trolling and disinformation campaigns to promote pro-Putin and pro-Russian propaganda.[4][5][6][7]

It has also been found that articles on Russian Wikipedia concerning the MH17 crash and the 2014 Ukraine conflict were targeted by Russian internet propaganda outlets.[8][9][10]”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_brigades

45 posted on 07/17/2018 6:46:16 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: All

October 26, 2017...

“[White House press secretary] Sarah Sanders said today that some in the media are finally starting to realize “the real collusion” with Russia involved the Clintons and the Democratic National Committee.

“If anyone was colluding with the Russians to influence the election, look no further than the Clintons and the DNC. ... Everything that the Clinton campaign and the DNC were falsely accusing this president of doing over the past year they were actually doing themselves, it turns out,” the White House press secretary said on “America’s Newsroom”

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/10/26/sarah-sanders-white-house-believes-muellers-trump-russia-will-be-closed-soon

Backup link
https://web.archive.org/web/20171027104927/http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/10/26/sarah-sanders-white-house-believes-muellers-trump-russia-will-be-closed-soon


46 posted on 07/17/2018 6:51:13 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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How Russia arms America's southern neighbors

Ioan Grillo
May 9, 2014

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil -- Russia's push into Ukraine has put many on edge. But less known is that Russia is also strengthening its military links south of the Rio Grande and re-establishing itself as a power in the region.

Vladimir Putin has been strengthening military links here, and Russia is now the largest arms dealer to governments in Latin America, surpassing the United States.

Russia has even floated the possibility of building new military bases in Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua, and putting its warships permanently in the Caribbean.

In the midst of the Ukraine crisis, Russia's top diplomat Sergei Lavrov recently visited Cuba, Peru, Chile, and Nicaragua, where he announced that Russia would also pour money into the new Central American canal project. ..."

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/140508/russian-arms-military-trade-latin-america
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Russia Boosts Arms, Training for Leftist Latin Militaries

Moscow defense minister inks deals with Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua for joint exercises

BY: Bill Gertz
February 20, 2015

Russia agreed to provide military training for three leftist regimes in Latin America and increase military visits and exercises following a visit last week to the region by Moscow's Defense Minister Sergei Shoygu, Pentagon officials said.

Shoygu met with defense and military leaders in Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua and signed several agreements on warship visits and military training during the visit, which ran from Feb. 11 to 14. It is not clear whether any new arms deals were completed during the visit.

Defense officials said the Russian leader is seeking bases in the region for strategic bomber flights that Shoygu recently promised would include flights over the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-boosts-arms-training-for-leftist-latin-militaries/

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KGB/FSB Putin very much wants a 'unified Korea'...under communist NK rule

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Russia and North Korea declare 2015 a ‘year of friendship’

“The biggest cause for concern is the growing military alliance between Russia and North Korea, with the two regimes recently announcing plans to conduct a series of joint army, navy and air force exercises this year.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/11463265/Russia-and-North-Korea-declare-2015-a-year-of-friendship.html

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Russia steps up North Korea support to constrain US

May 17, 2017

“Despite efforts by the United Nations to impose isolating sanctions on North Korea in response to the country’s continued development of nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles, trade between Russia and North Korea soared more than 85 percent in the first four months of the year.”

http://www.dw.com/en/russia-steps-up-north-korea-support-to-constrain-us/a-38867861

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Sept 5, 2017

North Korea nuclear crisis: Putin calls sanctions useless

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said pursuing further sanctions against North Korea is “useless”, saying “they’d rather eat grass than give up their nuclear programme”.

The US said on Monday it would table a new UN resolution on tougher sanctions in the wake of the latest test of a nuclear bomb by the North on Sunday.

Mr Putin also said that the ramping up of “military hysteria” could lead to global catastrophe.

He said diplomacy was the only answer.

China, the North’s main ally, has also called for a return to negotiations. ...”

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41158281

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From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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"Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants."

http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2005/09/war-games-russia-china-grow-alliance

47 posted on 07/17/2018 6:52:59 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: Mariner
Define neocon? Globalist Free Traitors™?

I am a paleocon. Protectionist, America first patriot.

48 posted on 07/17/2018 6:54:04 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Oklahoma; All

“Are you on Putin’s payroll? You Putin apologists make me sick.”

This ladies and gentlemen is the principle tactic of the neoconservative.

It’s called “Putin Shaming”.

The way it works is to declare all things associated with withdraw from policing the world...to be associated with Russia. And to declare all things about Russia to be support for Putin.

And then to label you a “Putinista” or some derivative thereof.

It worked for them for a couple of years. But they are not smart enough to realize everyone is on to it now. And everyone can now spot a Neoconservative for the toilet scum they are.


49 posted on 07/17/2018 7:13:46 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Your distinction has no value. Imagining you know what the Russian people are does not make it true.

In reality, Putin is the face of Russia.

In reality, Russia has always been a land rule by autocrats.
It has never been a republic based on democratic elections.
Expecting it to be such is folly.

He is almost as well known as Pussy Riot


50 posted on 07/17/2018 11:31:32 AM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: arrogantsob

Pussy Riot is just as Russian as Putin. Pussy Riot is Russian as Apple Pie is American LoL.

Bolshevik crazies!


51 posted on 07/17/2018 12:19:54 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: arrogantsob

I do not know what for a government Russia of the future will forge...I am just saying that the Putin set-up in its current form will crumble sooner than we may realize.


52 posted on 07/17/2018 12:21:17 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

what form* of government I mean.


53 posted on 07/17/2018 12:21:54 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I see no evidence of that happening but who knows?

There is not that much to point to in the US to imitate.

An Uniparty which governs put in place by a criminal organization, assisted by every major corrupt institution and supported by the Goebbelsmedia. Only Trump has stood up against this.

We have little to lord over Russia when it comes to politics. You know how corrupt the elections have been over the years because 40-45% of the eligible voters don’t give a shit.

We have had presidential candidates killed or shot, drastically changing the presidential picture. We have had presidents killed by assassins and a near fatal attempt against another.


54 posted on 07/17/2018 12:48:54 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: Nothingburger

Russia has a Muslim problem, demographically, and a big one


55 posted on 07/17/2018 5:50:35 PM PDT by Pelham (California, Mexico's socialist colony)
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