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If the Trump/Putin Press Conference Shocked You, You're Not Paying Attention
The Hill ^ | July 17, 2018 | Mark Davis

Posted on 07/17/2018 7:12:22 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

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To: Garth Tater

OK, lets play

So first question just to establish where you are coming from...

Knowing as I will assume you do that one of the most critical elements of their server would be the DB and someone who knew how to climb in and “hack” that access level in order to pull a copy. As I am sure you know additionally that very few people in an organization have the rights and privilege levels to pull this off

Question # 1 so we all know where you are coming from

Who “hacked” their server?

Russian agents
Guccifer
Inside Job (patriot)
Other


61 posted on 07/17/2018 3:11:58 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: 100American
"OK, lets play... Who “hacked” their server?"

How would I know that? Without immediate access to the network and servers nobody could answer that question. Even you, with all of your expertise in the field, couldn't answer that question without complete access to their system.

My point is only that the timestamps on the data files which you say prove that the data theft had to be done by someone with local access actually prove nothing of the kind. Those timestamps could have been created as the files were being copied or manipulated while still on the DNC network by anyone anywhere in the world that had compromised one computer on the network. Or, the timestamps could have been falsified later by anyone who had possession at any time of the files which are said to be, but not proven to be, the original files stolen from the DNC network.

If you want to change the subject from "the timestamps prove the theft was done by someone with local access" to "the thief had to have permissions on the database server" I'm afraid you will have to first admit your first error that the timestamps prove local access - after that maybe we can discuss your "permissions are required on the database server" issue.
62 posted on 07/17/2018 4:40:43 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: Garth Tater

http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/more-lies-no-sign-whatsoever-of-any-evidence-in-the-12-russians-indictment/

Bill Binney’s commentary on the transfer rates, IP mapping etc that prove it was not a Russian hack

Binney was Technical Director of the NSA and was engaged to do analysis and I take his word over yours.


63 posted on 07/17/2018 6:55:21 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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In the youtube video you provided Binney says he is relying on the data files' timestamps to prove that they weren't copied across an internet connection. I have already explained to you several times, how those timestamps could have been created on the DNC local network before they were copied across the internet or how the timestamps could have later been falsified by the hacker.

Did you also catch the part in the video where he said the files he analyzed were the files published by Guccifer2? LOL Like those files were sure to be in original form. Nope, I've NEVER met a hacker that would be so sneaky as to modify a file in order to cover his tracks. Nope. They are just not that smart! LOL

Binney admitted to having pulled these files off the internet. They were in no way verified to have come from the DNC servers. Any forensic analysis done on files of unknown provenance is completely worthless and anyone expressing their "expert" opinion on such files is either a liar or a fool. Hmmmm.... NSA Technical Director? I wonder which of those categories he falls into...

When you come right down to it, Binney says nothing that refutes my points. Are you, a self-avowed expert, really incapable of refuting on your own even one of the points I've made?

It's been fun talking to you poser. Now go back to your dream world where you are an expert in world-wide data distribution. LOL

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100American: "And to all the doubters, this is my world, data movement etc on a global scale."

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64 posted on 07/17/2018 7:54:12 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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