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Myth of a "RED" Arizona
self | 11/13/2018 | LS

Posted on 11/13/2018 5:48:12 AM PST by LS

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To: Mr Rogers
Massive vote fraud that ONLY helped Sinema? That left almost every other statewide race in Republican hands? That defeated “Green Energy” 70-30? That passed a ban on service taxes by 30 points? That passed a Republican measure on campaign financing by 13 points - which will hurt Democrats in all future races in Arizona?

Pretty selective fraud there.

Did it take several days to come up with vote totals on those other races?

61 posted on 11/13/2018 7:57:44 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: LS

I think most people see Arizona as being conservative because of Barry Goldwater. But a lot of people retire there (baby boomers) that come from all over, so many are likely to be liberal.


62 posted on 11/13/2018 7:59:36 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Wayne07

However the issue is framed the goal has to be to stop illegal immigration cold. If it isn’t, Texas falls and the Ds will become our permanent political party. Trump has to be supported and he has to get this done. There is no middle ground on this issue.


63 posted on 11/13/2018 8:01:41 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

We are on the worst case path currently, of poor/hostile messaging, AND not securing the border.


64 posted on 11/13/2018 8:03:05 AM PST by Wayne07
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Did it take several days to come up with vote totals on those other races?”

Yes. The difference was that margins meant late votes couldn’t change anything. Arizona rarely has a fully counted election in less than a week. The Secretary of State may be Dem this time...currently leading by 5667 votes after narrowly trailing on election night.

https://results.arizona.vote/#/state/4/0


65 posted on 11/13/2018 8:06:27 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"Arizonans need to remember that little Jeffy Flake is a closeted, magic underwear wearing, commie lib “prog”."

He is 1000x better than Sinema. For all Flake's BS, he voted the right way, with Trump, on most issues including Kavanaugh, Obamacare repeal. Sinema is 100% guaranteed to be against anything Trump is for. Flake had a big mouth, but voted the right way.

66 posted on 11/13/2018 8:07:11 AM PST by Wayne07
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To: Mr Rogers

“If he hadn’t come, she’d have lost by 150,000 votes! Or more.”

I concur. No matter how it would have turned out, the left got its way, as usual, in Arizona’s run for US Senate.


67 posted on 11/13/2018 8:08:00 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Socialism is for losers.)
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To: Mr Rogers
On another website, someone made the claim that 75% of Arizona's ballots were mail in ballots, and thus very susceptible to fraud. Is this true? Was most of Arizona's ballots mailed ballots?
68 posted on 11/13/2018 8:27:38 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

By my numbers, mail in ballots were 70% of the total this year. Not very susceptible to fraud. You sign them. The signature is compared to the signature on file. If there is a question, they call you. When your ballot is accepted, the inner envelope is submitted for the count.

Not saying fraud is impossible, but Arizona is NOT Florida, Broward County, or Georgia. No votes are being added in after the election. The votes being counted now - and I just heard there are over 150,000 remaining - were cast NLT Election Day.

Consider McSally’s history:

“Results unveiled Wednesday by Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Katherine Cooper — more than six weeks after the Nov. 4 election — showed McSally ahead by 167 votes. McSally, a retired Air Force officer and the first female to fly in combat, previously led the vote count by 161 votes, but a mandatory recount followed because the margin was not wide enough...The results come after a federal judge rejected a request from the Barber campaign to count 133 additional votes that the Democrat believed to have been improperly rejected.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/martha-mcsally-arizona-second-113640

Notice she gained votes, slightly. 161 vote lead finished at 167 vote lead. Ended on 17 December 2014!


69 posted on 11/13/2018 8:44:09 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Mr Rogers
The votes being counted now - and I just heard there are over 150,000 remaining

Wait, what? There are 150,000 ballots extant and McSally has conceded? WTF?

Apart from that, I still don't feel comfortable with so many mail in ballots. That not only strikes me as strange that there are so many, it also makes it too easy to create fraud if you have a machine set up to do it. The Democrats often run a machine.

70% of the ballots being mail in does not make any sort of sense at all. It seems to me that it's as much trouble to go to the post office to mail in a ballot as it is to just vote. Why would 70% of the voters find it easier to mail in a ballot? That doesn't make sense.

Why would 70% of Arizona want to vote by mail in ballot?

70 posted on 11/13/2018 8:59:28 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Mr Rogers

The Miss Of La Manchin?


71 posted on 11/13/2018 9:04:25 AM PST by Kickaha (See the glory...of the royal scam)
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To: gaijin

If we lose it isn’t due to votes it’s due to cheating democrats are experts at it note history.


72 posted on 11/13/2018 9:09:25 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I tried the mail in ballot this year. It lets me sit at the table and research any ballot issues while voting. It also allows me to cast my vote and get it done with. It is more convenient.

OTOH, I like the ID check that goes with Election Day voting. However, you can still get fraud there with precincts where no one cares to look. Not sure voting by mail is any more fraudulent than voting in person. Not when one considers Chicago, or Philadelphia, or Broward County!


73 posted on 11/13/2018 9:12:18 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: LS

I saw that on display when Laura Ingraham hosted a townhall of Arizona voters. I would have thought, with proximity to the border, they would be anti-illegal. Not so. One man even wanted to give them free healthcare and welfare and college. Half of the audience were full blown open borders.


74 posted on 11/13/2018 11:41:45 AM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: Zionist Conspirator

A minor historical quibble...no one was ever burned at the stake in America, The “witches” were hanged.


75 posted on 11/13/2018 12:24:33 PM PST by Borges
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To: LS

Too many Calispanics. Build the wall. Along CA.


76 posted on 11/13/2018 3:47:09 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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