Posted on 03/14/2019 8:13:00 AM PDT by Sopater
But states like mine in Michigan are trying this shit, too ....
“Generally, that is the way I see this. You can’t just take a guy’s guns on heresay of scared people. He has a right to a day in court before you simply take away his rights.”
You are a funny guy.
And the standard should be, at a minimum, clear and convincing rather than a preponderance of the evidence. And perhaps it should be "beyond a reasonable doubt."
Agreed. The burden on the government has to be high. For the truly loony types who scare the crap out of the rest of us, that shouldn’t be a difficult burden to meet.
The several States too have constitutions. It may be that the state itself doesn’t have a delegated power for these laws.
The legal profession is collectively dedicated to this current lawlessness because of things like excessive devotion to Stare Decius (even the Court plays no lawful role in amending the Constitution and altering the meaning agreed to by those that Ratified the Law is basically, fundamentally amending on the cheap). The Left doubly so. This is not just where the federal is concerned either.
No, not even a mother-in-law. The Constitution protects every Citizen.
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I rather like this idea. One more thing to add to it though: If anything happens to me or my property in the interim that might reasonably have been prevented with said firearms, then the accuser is also liable for all of those damages, in addition to paying for the “rental” of the firearms for the period.
The coming rebellion. Same mistakes not learned from King George. This time with semi and full auto rifles.
This will be abused and used for political retaliation. No way would I trust any level of government to exercise this power.
The 800 pound gorilla in the room asks this question: What are the ramifications for someone who falsely accuses someone in order to have their weapons taken away. Will false accusers be arrested and face severe punishment, jail time, etc. ala Jusse Smollett? Suppose the falsely accused individual hurts or kills police officers as a result of all of this stupidity? Does the false accuser do the time for the crime? On their face, these red-flag laws appear to be very dumb.
Let’s hope for a quick trip to the USSC.Actually it will take a long time and many people will lose their guns. Most will not get them back no matter what the Court decides.
“I personally don’t have a problem with the concept, but it has to include notice and a right to be heard before a judge before any weapons are confiscated.” Etc.
What about proper storage and handling of the firearms? Some collectors firearms have a high value which could be diminished by improper handling and storage. Grandpa’s double barrel has a high sentimental value.
Since any armed potential victim is a threat to an attacker (an "other"), confiscate ALL CC holders' weapons!
If they cannot be trusted to be armed, they should not be running around loose.
Tell that to New Jersey and New York. It is damned near impossible for the unconnected to get a carry permit (which in itself is an unconstitutional infringement) yet left wing judges uphold it.
Anent this “bipartisan” cr@p: adding a provision to punish false accusers & compensate those falsely accused (great idea of yours to give standing to the falsely accused to sue for damages) will seem a reasonable safeguard to some.
But to gungrabbers pushing Red Flag as a covert means of confiscation it will be regarded as a poison pill meant to queer the whole deal.
Lindsey Graham’s townhall on the 26th will be interesting to say the least. I voted for that b@stard just once when he filled the late Strom Thurmond’s slot but have voted against him ever since. He is a snake and chameleon combined.
Shall Not Be Infringed, (unless your significant other gets pissed off at you)...
Not the way it worked with the first ‘trial run’ in my State.
LE removed all the firearms from the home of a man whose nephew made a statement at school about accessing them. That statement was overheard by another 14 year old, who told her mother, who called the police, who called a judge that granted the order.
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