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Chinese reaction to Donald Trump tariff wars…
Metallicman ^ | 8-28-2019 | editorial staff

Posted on 08/28/2019 1:34:18 AM PDT by vannrox

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To: arthurus

[I always thought that Mao was a radical break with the past. Then I started reading a lot of Chinese history. Some emperors were nice guys, some were monsters but all controlled their societies minutely beheading mandarins, generals and common people for minute infractions or because they were believed about to commit infractions.]


Richard Pipes once pointed out that the problem with the Soviet Union wasn’t that they were Communists, but that they were Russian. The issue with being Russian wasn’t the bullshit Democratic issue of “election meddling”, but a world-conquering mindset - a thirst to add provinces/oblasts until the world stands united under Russian rule. The same issue applies to the Chinese, whether they were ruled by emperors, Nationalists or Communists.

I used to think of Chinese Communism as a bane to the world. Now I think of it as an excellent obstacle to Chinese ambitions. The Communists have found a way to perpetuate the reigns of the emperors under their own banner. Fortunately for the rest of the world, that style of governance incorporates the very weaknesses that allowed nations from the other side of the world, whose forebears were savages when the Chinese were civilized, to kick the Chinese sovereign’s teeth in. So long as China is ruled by emperors like Xi Jinping, it will never rule the world. And not for lack of trying.


21 posted on 08/28/2019 3:16:46 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: marktwain

I had awn acquaintance recommend that book to me. The Chinese playing the long game is what the book details. A great read. It gives insight to how they are willing to wait until the timing is right. They are in no hurry, for they truthfully have all the time in the world.


22 posted on 08/28/2019 11:34:54 PM PDT by Oil Object Insp
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To: arthurus

Such a method of rule works all too well. Since America’s founding, we have been the essential embodiment and defender of the democratic and humane ideals of Western civilization. The US and China now seem to be at odds over a set of trade issues, but in truth, we are in a civilizational struggle as momentous as WW II and the Cold War.


23 posted on 08/29/2019 1:18:24 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Oil Object Insp
They are in no hurry, for they truthfully have all the time in the world.

That is not quite correct.

Their strategy requires the U.S. to be complacent enough for them to win.

24 posted on 08/29/2019 4:33:42 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Rocky

So you’re saying the Chinese are national socialists.


25 posted on 09/01/2019 7:55:07 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Zhang Fei

Really? Seems like it’s not holding back their ambitions one bit.


26 posted on 09/01/2019 7:56:35 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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So you’re saying the Chinese are national socialists.

The people who run the government are communists. But that label does not by itself define what each individual in the party believes.

I think the majority of the Chinese people are proud of their country and will form a somewhat united front in the face of external opposition, whether they are in the communist party or not. (I say "somewhat" because there is seldom a case where everyone in a large group is in agreement with the leadership on any matter.)

As for calling them national socialists, that seems confusing to me. The Nazi party did not claim to adhere to Marx.

27 posted on 09/01/2019 8:31:11 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: Rocky

It’s irrelevant what the national socialist party claimed to adhere to, but what they did in practice. Josef Goebbels openly described the NSDAP as “the German Left … we despise bourgeois nationalism”; and this gives a good insight into the CPC’s strategy, where they openly tout “socialism with Chinese characteristics”, an open declaration of national socialism if there ever was one. Adolf himself in an interview expounded on point number 13 of the party’s 25-point program as “the nationalization of all public companies—in other words socialization, or what is known here as socialism”.

National socialism also migrated to the Islamic sphere of the Middle East and north Africa; the Ba’ath Party particularly openly declares itself both nationalist and socialist, and Nasser did also with his own Nasserism.

(BTW, I was just looking at Sky News’ live feed as I was typing this, and one scene showed Hong Kong’s airport with the word “Chinazi” scrawled on a display.)


28 posted on 09/01/2019 9:10:36 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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