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Ukraine on Fire: The Real Story - Full Documentary by Oliver Stone
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Posted on 10/06/2019 11:45:14 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: Capt. Tom
Could be caused by a religious difference.

There's that and a long history, centuries, of selling white Slavs into slavery.

21 posted on 10/06/2019 3:04:06 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: aspasia

So you are with the Globalists then?

This documentary exposes Globalists, Soros, Biden, McCain, etc


22 posted on 10/06/2019 3:12:53 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: aspasia

Oh and tell me what was misleading.

What FAKE STREAM NEWS SOURCE, that hate President Trump and America, told you this is a lie?


23 posted on 10/06/2019 3:13:43 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

“Catchy sing-alongs and chants are employed. Well-known for exciting a crowd and creating a group identity, they depersonalize individuals and make them easier to manipulate.”

Who is they? Neoconservatives!


24 posted on 10/06/2019 3:19:31 PM PDT by aspasia
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To: Enlightened1

As Malcolm Muggeridge once said, “see through the lens.”


25 posted on 10/06/2019 3:20:23 PM PDT by aspasia
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To: NFHale

Ping.


26 posted on 10/06/2019 3:29:25 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: IndispensableDestiny

Thank you.

Western media have always portrayed the Tatars as “peaceful” and “innocent victims” of the “barbaric” Slavs. Not so.

Slavs possess very long memories. I’m one myself, so I know.


27 posted on 10/06/2019 11:31:24 PM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl
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To: Enlightened1

So was Bowling for Columbine and An Inconvenient Truth.
Directors have a style, and Stone plays fast and loose with his subject matter.


28 posted on 10/06/2019 11:38:23 PM PDT by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: Waverunner

Alright well give me specifics what is wrong.

I know you believe the certified well known liars in the Fake Stream Media.

Tell us why you are siding with Obama, Hillary and the Anti-American Globalists?

Tell us why Ukraine is a National Security threat to the U.S. ?

Why is it the U.S. business to ally with actual real Nazis against a capitalist Russia?


29 posted on 10/07/2019 1:07:17 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

Biden, Pelosi, Kerry sons, Romney’s guy on boards of gas company, oligarchs’ donations to Clinton foundation. Soros’s open society, $5 billion IMF credit to pillage. That’s ‘American interest’ in a nutshell.


30 posted on 10/07/2019 5:41:32 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Enlightened1

I don’t believe the “ Fake Media Stream”
I definitely am not a fan of Obama, Hillary and Globalism
Ukrain is not a threat to Us, as a matter of fact we owe them, as we ( and Russia)guaranteed their territorial integrity for giving the 300+ nuclear weapons they had at the fall of the Soviet Union back to Russia.. ( Some much for the word of America) , and as General Motors proved with Opel during WW2, it’s about the dollars, not country. Now Walmart sells Chinese slave labor goods, Sam Walton is spinning in his grave enough to power the midwest.
Now back to my point, before you believe anything, consider the source. I was pointing out that Oliver Stone has a very anti US bias in the majority of the body of his work. I actually believe that Russia took advantage of a spineless President Obama to invade and occupy a country in violation of an agreement with the US. Now Russia can dip it’s nationalistic toes in the Black Sea again. Not good for peace or stability. I also believe that Russia seeks to control Ukraine, as it has since the time of Catherine the Great.


31 posted on 10/07/2019 6:08:15 AM PDT by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: Enlightened1

And all of the Venezuelans who have fled the country are fake too per Oliver Stone?

You are siding with Hugo Chavez.

And Oliver Stone sides with Hugo Chavez, Maduro, Drug Cartels. Oliver Stone is an idiot.

You are siding with Communists.


32 posted on 10/07/2019 6:17:43 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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The Russians, Soviet Union started World War II collaborating with the Nazis. The Russian/Putin trolls always throw this garbage out.

Also, Zelenskiy, a Jew is president of Ukraine, won 69% of the vote.

That Steinmeier doctrine doesn’t look to good. Something to watch.


33 posted on 10/07/2019 6:36:32 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: Enlightened1
I haven't watched the movie yet but this article in the Manila Times points out what went on (and how the same groups were trying to push a narrative to get rid of the popular Duterte)

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it points to the NED (National endowment for Democracy) as being a US front (maybe even a CIA front) that was funding anti Duterte articles in the Media. they then add:

While these moneys may seem small, an NGO activist in Europe pointed out this was the same pattern in Ukraine several years back. The NED initially extended modest funds to Ukrainian opposition groups, and increased them substantially as the political crisis in that country broke out that led to the overthrow in 2014 of pro-Russia Ukraine President Viktor Yanukovych, to be replaced by pro-US leaders.

NED president Carl Gershman, who has been openly rabidly anti-Russian would boast after Yanukovych’s fall: “Ukraine is the biggest prize“. (Another US outfit that has funded NGOs in Ukraine that helped topple Yanukovych is Omidyar Network, owned by tycoon Pierre Omdiyar. It is one of the two foreign financiers of another anti-Duterte media outfit, Rappler.)

34 posted on 10/07/2019 7:48:03 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: BeadCounter

Funny thing, an expert on Stone’s film is addressing exactly that sort of thinking.


35 posted on 10/07/2019 1:27:41 PM PDT by NorseViking
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Russia points fingers and cries “interference” whenever its very real imperialistic desires are blocked, even as it and its ruling hawks interfere- with a vengeance - in every corner of the globe, all over the world while claiming everyone does it but themselves. Like chiggers, ticks, and mosquitos, they exist for themselves alone, building nothing good, growing nothing of value, living by biting, irritating and sucking the life out of everything they touch, and carrying their demoralizing diseases to the unsuspecting.


36 posted on 11/23/2019 6:30:30 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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