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Where Are the Families in Science Fiction?
Powered by Robots Blog ^ | 3/24/2021 | James Pyles

Posted on 03/25/2021 8:57:11 PM PDT by tbw2

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To: zeugma
affect effect

I hate when I do that.

61 posted on 03/26/2021 8:00:52 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Pontiac

Lol. Let em. Hugos won’t make the terrible books sell.


62 posted on 03/26/2021 8:09:58 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Pontiac

His sister is key to redeeming/saving him.


63 posted on 03/26/2021 8:44:25 AM PDT by tbw2
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64 posted on 03/26/2021 11:43:49 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Pontiac
Military, exploration or society?
65 posted on 03/26/2021 12:49:50 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (May their path be strewn with Legos, may they step on them with bare feet until they repent. )
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To: zeugma
I believe all of those are Baen authors.

Shepherd isn't but it is interest that most of the authors I like are published by Baen.

Occasionally something pops up by DelRay or TOR but not much.

Two reasons I think, Baen treats their authors right as in they pay them their royalties. Not all publishing companies do. And certainly in the past many companies didn't.

The second is that Baen seems to give their authors artistic freedom. You will not, for example, find PGC (Perfect Gay Couple) shoehorned into the story line. There might be one but it will not be forced in but authors choice.

66 posted on 03/26/2021 1:06:08 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (May their path be strewn with Legos, may they step on them with bare feet until they repent. )
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
The second is that Baen seems to give their authors artistic freedom. You will not, for example, find PGC (Perfect Gay Couple) shoehorned into the story line. There might be one but it will not be forced in but authors choice.

I think that's true. A week or so ago there was some kind of kerfluffle that involved Baen. The published response by some of the authors was interesting. Eric Flint, who is a self-described socialist reiterated his support for some of the more conservative writers at Baen.

As far as I am concerned, I don't really care what the particular politics of the writers are as long as they can put together an interesting story with compelling characters. I know that Flint was supportive of Jerry Pournelle who is not a socialist by any stretch of the imagination.

I also wonder if Flint's socialism may have moderated quite a bit over the years given the directions that his 1632 universe has taken.

67 posted on 03/26/2021 1:40:02 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: tbw2

Someone isn’t reading much science fiction - there’s plenty of families in them, but they aren’t always seen because the point of the story is that it’s full of adventure and daring and exploration and research and death and so on. Not something most people bring their kids along for. Also, many times the leads are single specifically to allow the reader to insert themselves into the story no matter their background, anyone can relate and remember when they were single and free to be able to do something like a sci-fi adventure! A few off the top of my head:

Ender’s Game - kid is taken from his family because he’s crazy smart and develops a new family with his fellow squadmates.

The War Against the Rull - the main guy has a family back home, that we see occasionally. And, he basically adopts the alien baby in the process.

Star Wars - per the article, Disney’s stupid crap is different, but the real storyline includes Han and Leia making a family. Plus the main characters (Luke, Vader) have plenty of familial relationship too!

Pern - a whole bunch of families travel to a new world and establish a new society, which includes families, though some in an odd way based on the dragons.

Dune - Houses are families. It’s basically family vs family war here.

Foundation series - this is more a societal tale then following a particular person, but there’s lots of families in there.

Schlock Mercenary - it’s a company of mercenaries. And yet, still, there’s several family-related plots, or even major characters starting a family.

Spacetrawler - yea, not much. Mostly just high sci-fi adventure fun.

Starship Troopers - yup, mostly just action.

Heinlein - lots of one-offs, and not much family in there.

Hyperion - not too much there.


68 posted on 03/26/2021 8:46:09 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Svartalfiar
Heinlein's juvenile novels usually area about kids with families, and even his R rated Friday is about an “artificial person” looking for a family.
69 posted on 03/26/2021 8:54:39 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I like all three


70 posted on 03/27/2021 3:29:30 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: Svartalfiar

Newer stuff rarely has traditional married mother-father families with children.


71 posted on 03/27/2021 8:09:14 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Pontiac
If you like short stories, might I recommend the Bolo series?

Sentient tanks, Keith Laumer came up with the concept but various writers play in that world.

David Weber Dahak series is really good.

And at this link Baen free short stories you can try out all sorts of Sci-Fi authors. Fiction and non fiction.

72 posted on 03/27/2021 11:14:06 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (May their path be strewn with Legos, may they step on them with bare feet until they repent. )
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

It’s due to the fact that by and large, science fiction always has been garbage, irrespective how enjoyable this or that book, story, movie, or TV series may have been.


73 posted on 03/28/2021 9:26:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: tbw2
Star Wars Holiday Special was all about Chewbacca's family. So be careful what you wish for.


74 posted on 03/28/2021 10:16:15 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: wardaddy

I want the flying car I was promised 50+ years ago.


75 posted on 03/28/2021 11:21:00 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

No kidding

I think we’re more likely to see underground tunnel expressways


76 posted on 03/28/2021 1:51:07 PM PDT by wardaddy (P IN 1999 JIM THOMPSON WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE BUSHES ...WE WERE WRONG lz’’z:s)
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To: tbw2

Ah yea I haven’t read much newer stuff.. I haven’t read much at all besides news/current events stuff for a good 5-6 years...


77 posted on 03/31/2021 7:00:17 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: LadyDoc

Never read much of his kid stuff.. More the adult stuff like Time Enough for Love, Cat Who Walks through Walls, etc.


78 posted on 03/31/2021 7:01:22 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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