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It’s burning like hell! Megafire in Oregon and 60 wildfires in 10 US states, 800,000 hectares of forest destroyed so far in Siberia, the world is a burning torch
SS ^ | 7/15/21 | SS

Posted on 07/18/2021 7:00:21 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

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To: rey

The big difference is that people were not raised as fragile drama queens back then.


21 posted on 07/18/2021 7:11:30 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

What hyperbole. Meant to scare and advance an agenda.

Not news but advocacy.


22 posted on 07/18/2021 7:11:53 AM PDT by Fury
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To: dfwgator

Variety of issues.
Land mismanagement, fools at the BLM, drought, sin and birthpangs.


23 posted on 07/18/2021 7:12:00 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

This happens when you stop managing the forests for 40 years.


24 posted on 07/18/2021 7:12:28 AM PDT by bray (Hating Whites is racist)
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To: AZJeep

Only a sudden ice age can save us. /s


25 posted on 07/18/2021 7:13:32 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this?)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

“New fire behavior”? that is what the NBC reporter says. the laws of physics have changed? Fire somehow burns differently?

I would not even say that the scale has changed. Yes, this is bad and unfortunate but hardly unprecedented. AS I noted elsewhere, 3 million in less than three days in 1910 and a million and a half in a day in 1871 kinda makes 200,000 in 12 days, though large, is small and slow in comparison. All the reporting is alarmist.


26 posted on 07/18/2021 7:15:47 AM PDT by rey
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Arson in support of globull worming narrative.


27 posted on 07/18/2021 7:17:21 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Does Oregon do the same as California and never clear away dead trees and brush?


28 posted on 07/18/2021 7:17:41 AM PDT by albie
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To: rey

My grandmother went through the Peshtigo fire.

They survived by getting in the river with a patch quilt-away from shore because those near the shore broiled to death.

The same day, there was a fire across the Bay of Green Bay.

Some people survive out in the middle of fields. Others, who had jumped into ditches or hollows in the middle of fields suffocated with not a hair on their heads touched. Others, there was no evidence except a ring or watch. The fire sucked roofs off from buildings-she watched that and watched as animals and people got sucked into the air.

That October, my Grt Gramps and one of his sons, had to haul water to the crews making Rail Road logging spurs in the swamps.
Nobody paid attention to the smoke because the Farmers, etc, were clearing land and burning stumps and slash. That is how it got going.


29 posted on 07/18/2021 7:21:00 AM PDT by crz
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
It's hard to get good information these days, untainted by agenda. But, regarding the western US, this article concludes

"...there is now a forest “fire deficit” in the western United States attributable to the combined effects of human activities, ecological, and climate changes. Large fires in the late 20th and 21st century fires have begun to address the fire deficit, but it is continuing to grow."


30 posted on 07/18/2021 7:22:08 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

HISTORY....From September 11 to 13, 1902, the Yacolt Burn, the largest forest fire in recorded Washington (it started in Oregon) history to that point (and for more than a century thereafter), destroys 238,920 acres — more than 370 square miles — and kills 38 people in Clark, Cowlitz, and Skamania counties.


31 posted on 07/18/2021 7:22:28 AM PDT by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Hyperbole much?

CC


32 posted on 07/18/2021 7:24:14 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: rightwingcrazy

One thing with statistics is that they can be manipulated.
Not saying that is the case.

Is it that these have always happened and because of news cycles we hear about it more over the past 20 years or so?

Or is it that there really are more of these?

I just don’t remember reading or hearing about these that often in the 80s/90s.


33 posted on 07/18/2021 7:24:52 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: dfwgator

Mass hysteria!

CC


34 posted on 07/18/2021 7:25:10 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: coloradan

The fire season’s first fire is usually on an Indian Reservation. There was a small one attributed to arson on a reservation but the larger first of the season on the same reservation was probably arson. They get a lot of federal dollars for fighting those fires.


35 posted on 07/18/2021 7:26:28 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: rey

Yep the peshtigo fire was big. Also that same day in 1871 the great Chicago fire started.


36 posted on 07/18/2021 7:27:53 AM PDT by redshawk ( I want my red balloon. ( https://youtu.be/zNLpfEDliV0)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

cleaning out over growth, turning green to ash and dead wood, returning carbon to the soil, making good soil for next cycle of growth


37 posted on 07/18/2021 7:29:48 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

I remember them all the time in California, going way back, but maybe they didn’t make hysterical national news like they do these days. There’s an area near the coast, full of tony homes, that periodically turns into an inferno. People just use insurance money to rebuild, and move back in. Lovely place, though.


38 posted on 07/18/2021 7:32:59 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Worst ever!

Yes, I feel terrible for the people living through this and it is the worst for them but I’m sick of history being ignored/erased.

They remove history and everything starts from now, any act of nature is the worst it ever was.

You won’t see improvements that have been made in the human condition, recent past is the measure, religions will be erased.

Without history it becomes a communist utopia of propaganda and only the gods of government can solve problems, give you sustenance, life, death.


39 posted on 07/18/2021 7:33:16 AM PDT by Irenic ( )
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To: rey

I remember Public Service Announcements from 1957 warning that the US had so many wildfires each year that if you put them together they would cover the state of Louisiana.

Have we reached that level since 1957?


40 posted on 07/18/2021 7:35:00 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have declared us to be THE OBSOLETE MAN in the Twilight Zone.))
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