Posted on 07/18/2021 7:00:21 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
24 Hour News Channels and hidden agendas all stand to make things seem worse than ever before.
On the same day as the Peshtigo fire, Chicago also burned down. Additionally most of Michigan’s “thumb” burned in the Port Huron fire. There were large fires throughout the midwest and parts of Ontario, Canada that day and shortly thereafter.
CC
Wow! Thanks for posting.
“Antifa burning down the red counties”
That would not surprise me in the least.
Maybe the dummies will stop listening to the environmentalists and clean up the danged forests? Neh, they love to spew the climate change money “tree,”
Looks like a lot of new conifers are going to spring up.
Are Cali-fornians still restricted from cleaning up the brush?
I bet I planted several thousand pine trees in my youth. We go them through our Virginia county extension agent and plant them as part of our 4-H and FFA programs. Lots of pulpwood.
You can also send all the rain from Michigan as well.
Finally a Sunny day here.
3 power outages in the last two weeks, and flooded basements throughout the Metro-Detroit area.
Garden is loving it.
Glass half empty v half full. All on how ya wanna look at it I suppose.
Tie can be good in a forest if it is overgrown and it is a proven fact that many plant species have seed that will not sprout without fire. I have seen this myself on Mt Lemmon in AZ. Back in the mid 80s the mountaintop was overgrown with weedy little pine trees too close together a d the forest floor was mostly a mostly dead carpet of pine needles. There was not much wildlife to see either because it was mostly a moonscape. In 2003 there was the Aspen Fire burned some of that mess away. The fire was so bad that President Jorge Booosh has to show up for a photo op. Fast forward two years later and the burned areas were busting with multimplen varieties of flowers, grasses, shrubs and teens, Butterflies, bees, are birds everywhere and more deer and rabbit. There will still up but ed stands of trees and the effect was quite magical. I saw this myself - direct experience over many visits spanning decades. I don't need to cite any sources but they are about there. It is a fact that fire can be good for a forest if not for the board feet per acre.
Read in an “industry” journal a study of wildfires in U.S. over the past 30 years. Conclusion was that the number of fires per year was essentially unchanged, but that the size and duration of the fires had on average roughly doubled. The reasons for this, per the article, were two: First, there is an increased willingness to let nature do its thing, and decrease fuel loads; second, there is a greater focus on firefighter safety than in the past. Absent from the article was any discussion of the amount of money spent fighting larger fires for extended periods of time, or any discussion of the effect long-term exposure to smoke might have on health and local economies.
What does whole tree skidding simulate?
You refer to the big burn that happened in the Idaho panhandle in 1910. It coincided with the creation of the US Forest Service whose primary purpose was to suppress fires on public lands.
There is a very good PBS documentary on it that I would urge people to watch. I believe it is on youtube for purchase and I could not find a free one although I have seen it before for free. It is called the Big Burn. There is another good special on the fires that ravaged Minnesota in 1918 that is on YouTube.
There is also a good presentation from a USFS researcher in the northwest that might surprise you and its worth a few minutes to explain how/why we are experiencing the megafires (hint - we put out small fires so no “controlled burns” and we have too many trees (too much fuel).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edDZNkm8Mas
What happened is that along with the farmers, et al burning brush for clearing, the logging companys only took down to a 12 inch top. The slash covered the ground so thick that a person could not walk through it.
There was three types of cutters back then. The piece workers who cut in the swamps for cedar fencing etc, the peelers, who cut down hemlock and peeled the bark off for the tanning factorys and the fallers who cut the pine for the sawmills.
The hemlock, after it was cut down and the bark peeled off, the bole/tree would be left. To this day! When I used to skid up there, I would run across a patch where it was heavy hemlock and the dead heads are laying on the ground. When I tried to push them out of the way, they were just about as sound as the day they were cut. Wouldnt break. Just two or three inches are rotten on the outside. So..we used to cut them up and send them in for pulpwood. GD pulp mills would bitch and moan because the rot on the outside would plug up the debarker if they got to much in the drum at one time. But heavy! All that weight. We snuck them in anyway. Screw them!
Eastern hemlock, White cedar, and redwood, doesnt rot well. And Hemlock doesnt burn like anything else does.
All the old timers are gone. My dad was one and I LISTENED to the old timers and their experiences. After the pine was gone, they moved to the west coast. That is how the logging started there-it was loggers who moved from the east coast-to the upper midwest and then to the west coast.
Careful there. If you clutch your string of pearls too tightly they might break.
The government used to get paid to let rancher graze their livestock in federal forests. That cleared out a lot of the fuel. The greenies put a stop to that and the fires are far worse as a result. There will always be fires, that’s life, but how bad they are near inhabited places rests on common sense of those running government.
There goes the marijuana fields grown by illegals in our national parks.
You left out white extremism, that must be part of the cause.
I doubt a few fires equate to Jesus coming soon. If that were the case, he’d have returned a long time ago. You think this is the first time?
A foreshadowing of the infernal reward awaiting democrats. Wait until they are welcomed into their father’s house below.
And here in the northeast, we’re inundated.
It’s ridiculously wet here. I wish we could give some of it to the areas that need it.
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