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1 posted on 02/28/2022 12:40:27 PM PST by conservative98
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Then how can Kamala “Heels up” Harris become president?

5.56mm


42 posted on 02/28/2022 1:07:23 PM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: conservative98

Levin is wrong
Citing a statute when it is being used in direct opposition to the Constitution? Nada!

He knows this, too


45 posted on 02/28/2022 1:08:46 PM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They’re excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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....Assuming that his father was a citizen at the time of Madar’s birth, the
Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 controls Madar’s citizenship status. That law
provided that several categories of individuals “shall be nationals and citizens of the United
States at birth,” including:

a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its
outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or
periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable
service in the Armed Forces of the United States by such citizen parent may
be included in computing the physical presence requirements of this paragra

http://appellatelaw-nj.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Madar-v.-Unites-States-Citizenship-and-Immigration-Services.pdf


46 posted on 02/28/2022 1:10:19 PM PST by rolling_stone
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Ugh, the more I look at it, this whole article/post is utter crap.

It is a link to some argument on a completely different website that happened way back in 2016. It doesn't quote Levin, nor does it provide a link to anything he actually said. It's just some chuckleheads on some other sports-related website having an argument and attributing some non-specific positions on birtherism to Levine without any specifics or support.

Should be deleted.

51 posted on 02/28/2022 1:15:13 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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It is my understanding that if you were born elsewhere and have dual citizenship as a result, or even the option of it, you are considered to have an allegiance to two nations rather than the one, and are thus disqualified from the Presidency.

Is that not the case?


53 posted on 02/28/2022 1:15:57 PM PST by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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Kamala Harris is NOT a natural born citizen. Neither of her parents were U.S. citizens when she was born.


56 posted on 02/28/2022 1:19:26 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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Mark Levin is wrong.

Here is why. The game in the Middle Ages was for noble families to enter marry so that there could be claims on thrones. You could be King of England and king of Scotland and King of France by birth. Vattel, who wrote the Law of Nations, specified Natural Born as “Two Citizen parents on Sovereign soil”. There was NO QUESTION of citizenship at birth in this circumstance. This is wherein it was derived for the writing of the Constitution. We know this because the writers and main players in the writing of the Constitution all checked out Vattel’s work from the NYC library. They did not accept British Common law, and did not consider themselves to be American Natural Born citizens (out clause of eligibility if born before 1790).

Under Mark Levin idea, you can be King of Jordan AND President of the United States. The founding fathers wanted no such entanglements. Hence, why they choose NBC for POTUS and VPOTUS requirements.


64 posted on 02/28/2022 1:24:16 PM PST by Pete Dovgan
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I just read the statute Levin cited. It applies to US citizenship not natural born.

8 U.S. Code § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

No mention of natural born in the statute. The constitution states natural born citizenship required.

Levin needs to go back to the well.


67 posted on 02/28/2022 1:27:06 PM PST by Ceebass (USA RIP 1776-2021)
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Levin is full of shit. If one parent is not a citizen, the child inherits that citizenship at birth along with the citizenship of the other parent. The result of “dual” citizenship parents is “duel” citizenship birth. The child can be a citizen of either country or both. Natural born citizenship can only apply to a birth from parents of the same citizenship and under the political jurisdiction of the country they are citizens of. The child can ONLY be a citizen of the same country, thus natural born citizen.


70 posted on 02/28/2022 1:29:08 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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Levin thinks he knows it all. He doesn’t.

He wasn’t alive when the constitution was written. He can’t know what they meant by “Natural Born Citizen” UNLESS he looks to Emmerich de Vattel, The Law of Nations (1758), which is where everyone at the time knew what the definition of natural born citizen was/is.


78 posted on 02/28/2022 1:37:08 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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Levin, “ya big jerk!”


79 posted on 02/28/2022 1:37:47 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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Dishonest leftists

As well as a number of idiot FReepers also.........

81 posted on 02/28/2022 1:41:14 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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The writers of the Constitution were “birthers” since they placed the clause in the Constitution.

Every word in the Constitution was debated. So when the “natural born” phrase was placed in it, it meant something — born of citizen parents (as the history professor told us in college) as defined directly by the Immigration Act of 1790. As a qualification for president, the only time it is used.


83 posted on 02/28/2022 1:45:24 PM PST by odawg
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Yep, the phrase natural born citizen” has a meaning, and anybody willing to read can find it in Wong Kim Ark. Anybody who thinks it can ONLY mean someone who has two citizen parents, as opposed to someone being “legally” born here, is the equivalent of a Sovereign Citizen arguing with a police officer about the need to have a driver’s license or insurance - in other words, some kind of a nut.


90 posted on 02/28/2022 1:53:41 PM PST by Penelope Dreadful (And there is Pansies, that's for Thoughts.)
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Levin is a lying liar!

Citizen at birth does NOT equal Natural Born citizen!

The 2 are completely different!


108 posted on 02/28/2022 2:28:39 PM PST by imabadboy99
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Would the Constitution have been written to allow a dual citizen with dual loyalties to become President.

Let’s say an English/US citizen?

And what was the reason for the grandfathering in of “a citizen at time of writing?


110 posted on 02/28/2022 2:31:22 PM PST by Hypo2
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Enough of this nonsense...

U.S. born or foreign born, the only important issue is that Americans blindly voted (twice) for a known communist whose parents were both known communists...

All long-term hope for restoration of the former Republic totally disappeared during those 8 years...

Now it is even worse, the second communist administration is fully implementing the dark & enduring tyranny associated with all prior communist governments everywhere...

The American people have shown no real or substantive inclination to restore even the simplest of freedoms...

On the positive side, there are now only about 998.7 years (based on Ronald Reagan’s prophesied 1,000 years) left of this growing and expanding tyranny...


114 posted on 02/28/2022 2:33:19 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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Can a US citizen, who has immediate family (parents), who are foreign citizens and residents get a top secret/sensitive compartmentalized information (TS/SCI) clearance?

60 Years ago, no supposedly,

However, a Navy CT Chief and friend married a woman, who was Ethiopian and Italian. A year later, he was assigned to the
North Hampton while JFK was Potus. The Hampton had a Presidential Office reduced in size on the ship with a blue carpet and a rocking chair. That was in the 1960’s before JFK was killed.


118 posted on 02/28/2022 2:47:26 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Encourage and fund our liberals & Antifa to move to Canada. Conservative Canadians can move here!)
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Natural born?

MACBETH
I bear a charmèd life, which must not yield
To one of woman born.
MACDUFF
Despair thy charm,
And let the angel whom thou still hast served
Tell thee Macduff was from his mother’s womb
Untimely ripped.
144 posted on 02/28/2022 4:40:26 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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👍👍👍👍👍


153 posted on 02/28/2022 5:49:06 PM PST by ZULU (HOOVER, FREEH, MUELLER, COMEY, WRAY, SUCCESSION OF STATISTS)
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