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It's Official: California State University Has Permanently Abandoned Standardized Testing
Red State ^ | 03/28/2022 | Alex Parker

Posted on 03/28/2022 8:03:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

who needs admission tests when bribes work better?


21 posted on 03/28/2022 9:32:55 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Smith,Cornell, and University of Chigago don’t require them….all great schools.

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22 posted on 03/28/2022 9:46:09 PM PDT by Mears ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

Who needs testing when your getting a degree in trans studies with a minor in fisting?


23 posted on 03/28/2022 9:57:02 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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>> according to CSU acting Chancellor Steve Relyea, it’s about leveling the playing field

In other words, K-16


24 posted on 03/28/2022 10:04:02 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Does this mean a student taking Honor Roll or AP curriculum is wasting their time?


25 posted on 03/28/2022 10:12:28 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (ui)
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To: Ge0ffrey
In other words, white males need not apply.

In other words, Asians need not apply.

26 posted on 03/28/2022 10:13:44 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (ui)
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To: vpintheak

Lowering standards so all the foreigners invading our borders “get a fair chance”.


27 posted on 03/28/2022 10:15:28 PM PDT by caww ( )
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To: vpintheak

Yeah....keep lying to the students so they stay in school and the school can get those government grants. I don’t support schools that teach nonsense majors that are just made up to get government monies. The schools are just as bad as the fly by night “technical” schools.


28 posted on 03/28/2022 10:28:45 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

No. They will be able to function at a high level. Will have many opportunities come their way.


29 posted on 03/28/2022 10:32:00 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: SeekAndFind
When the pool of potential students consists of illiterate beaners and dindus, what choice do they have? In a sane world they would just close the school.

30 posted on 03/28/2022 10:44:14 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: SeekAndFind

SAT, GRE and ACT are useless marketing tools from the 1960’s. Admissions to colleges is confusing and random. UC Berkeley got 120,000 applicants last year and accepted 5,000. How? People sit around a table with a pile of applicants, talk about the weather and grab a few applications here and there to accept. Everyone knows that the 27 Cal States are graduate high schools and major employers like Bayer, Sybase and Amgen don’t really look at diplomas apart from twenty major schools. MIT is by far the best college and a simple acceptance letter from MIT is worth more than a diploma from hundreds of other colleges.

My advice? Every person deserved an excellent education which he can get anywhere with a library, a tutoring center and a pizza place. No reason to drop big bucks for college.


31 posted on 03/28/2022 11:09:47 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Two of my kids are attending/have graduated from Cal State. This is a complicated issue. All of my boys did better on their SATs than their GPAs would predict—some boys are “late bloomers.”

But studies do show that GPAs are better predictors (or at least equal predictors) than SATs of academic success. So in one sense, no great loss.

Bottom line for all non-Californians here: it’s very easy to get into any of the 23 Cal State campuses other than San Luis Obispo and San Diego. You need a 2.5 and you are good to go.

The real problem now is UC. Nine campuses. Applications have skyrocketed due to no SAT (that hurdle is gone), and the essay now has more importance. Horror stories abound about 4.5 students being rejected from most or all UCs now (except for Merced who rejects nobody).

Asians are hurt most by this (not whites).

Gavin Newson is doing ONE good thing to help Californians here: he’s reducing the out-of-state and out-of-US students gradually, down to 10% by 2033. Currently it’s 25%.

The college admissions system nationwide is really broken.


32 posted on 03/28/2022 11:17:16 PM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: Ge0ffrey
In other words, white males need not apply.

You can include Asians in that.

33 posted on 03/28/2022 11:51:18 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Ge0ffrey
In other words, white males need not apply.

That is already happening. 60% of college students are women. Making it so much harder to get the MRS degree. Guys are finding better opportunities without a worthless degree and all that college debt

34 posted on 03/29/2022 12:47:28 AM PDT by FatherofFive (We support Trump. Not the GOP)
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To: Mears

SAT’s are required for whites.


35 posted on 03/29/2022 2:00:24 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: SeekAndFind

Banana republic with nukes.


36 posted on 03/29/2022 3:46:46 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Falconspeed

Without standards these schools are just waving a magic wand and giving semi-literates a degree in exchange for a large IOU; the debt-laden “grad” then goes into the workforce without skills but equal to real students on paper. This starts a series of racial grievance complaints that last a lifetime as the person never earns enough to justify the school debt.

The government used to invent jobs for those tokens but ran out of money to do so; now the government simply pressures companies to add them to their payrolls in fake jobs; a “diversity tax” (and sues any who fail to do so at the set rate).


37 posted on 03/29/2022 3:55:42 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: vpintheak

Yep. This will pay off financially in the short term, at least: First, they can save money on the admissions process by not screening. Second, they can welcome in a group of unqualified kids, get their first semester’s tuition, and when the kids drop out after 6 weeks, the college keeps the money.


38 posted on 03/29/2022 5:03:27 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: SeekAndFind

They should lose their accreditation.


39 posted on 03/29/2022 5:04:17 AM PDT by Vision (Elections are one day. Reject "Chicago" vote harvesting. Election Reform Now. Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: olivia3boys

The only problem with GPAs as indicators is the massive grade inflation in the public schools. I know: I was a teacher with LAUSD for 16 years, and I inflated along with everyone else (well, I didn’t inflate the A’s and B’s, but I did everything I could to turn F’s and D’s into C’s, because admin made it clear that if we didn’t, all fails were our fault. I took the earliest retirement I could because the whole system made me sick.)


40 posted on 03/29/2022 5:09:38 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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