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Ukraine – Why Freedom-Loving Americans Aren’t On Board
CD Media ^ | May 14, 2022 | Ayad Rahim

Posted on 05/15/2022 11:58:23 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: devere

“If only Putin’s army was as good as his propaganda machine, Russia would be winning.”

It wasn’t the Russian Defense Minister calling his American counterpart last week and begging for a cease fire.

It was the opposite.


41 posted on 05/15/2022 1:00:05 PM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: SoConPubbie

I just boiled it down to “why should we believe them?”


42 posted on 05/15/2022 1:00:22 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: JonPreston

Wow, seems like we should get his account closed. Hard to see how he contributes to this site (and is likely just a new screen name for one of the usual suspects).


43 posted on 05/15/2022 1:01:45 PM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
What amazes me is that, even if the United States were to decide to be completely neutral in this conflict, how many FReepers would still be cheering for Russia to win.

I suspect most FReepers would be happy enough if the United States actually was "completely neutral" in this conflict.

But that's no longer the way of the United States.

That the US government is demonstrating a far greater interest in foreigners in Ukraine than inside its own "borders" (a word I use loosely) should make you and everyone else here smell a rat.

44 posted on 05/15/2022 1:01:46 PM PDT by Captain Walker ("If you think tough men are dangerous, wait until you see what weak men are capable of."- J Peterson)
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To: BobL

yes, lots of them lately. And every one a Neocon.


45 posted on 05/15/2022 1:02:48 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: 1forest1
Rather than attack me personally

It's not an attack, you're a plant. That's a fact.

46 posted on 05/15/2022 1:04:36 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: Captain Walker

Just because our government doesn’t close our southern border, it doesn’t necessarily follow logically that the Russians are the good guys.


47 posted on 05/15/2022 1:06:46 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: 1forest1

So when you say ‘you people’ it’s not MAGA folks?

You think the election was stolen from Trump?
Which mule were you on Biden’s staff?


48 posted on 05/15/2022 1:07:53 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: SoConPubbie

Too many truths.
My friends I am going to read a Norm Chomsky book after I’m done reading the current one on Pat Tillman. I’m sure there will be more than a few of his ideas we can agree with. Tillman wanted to meet him and talk as both he and brother Kevin were against the Iraq war. The writer is Jon Krakauer(Into Thin Air/Into the Wild). A fine writer who I could see really had it out for the Bush’s and his people.

Tillman lived life on the edge, taking chances. He gravitated towards danger and volunteered to face death on the front lines. His big mistake was entrusting his life to superiors who could not be counted on to do the right or smart thing. He paid for it with his life. He chose wrong.

As for Krakauer one cannot deny his talents. Half way thru the book I considered not finishing it. As many lies as he claimed were out there I can’t believe him much either. Today it’s Ukraine. What will it be in November? More Covid? Another Hurricane Sandy? All I know is that too many will wait for the official response and take it as gospel.


49 posted on 05/15/2022 1:08:09 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Just because our government doesn’t close our southern border, it doesn’t necessarily follow logically that the Russians are the good guys.

I'm not suggesting that the Russians are the "good guys" at all.

We don't have a dog in this fight. That a country as morally and financially bankrupt as our own is intervening in a corner of the world far from ours should make any genuine conservative stand up in opposition to it.

Call it "America Last" or simply "late-stage" capitalism; our efforts to stick our beak in that part of the world has nothing to do with "conservatism".

50 posted on 05/15/2022 1:14:24 PM PDT by Captain Walker ("If you think tough men are dangerous, wait until you see what weak men are capable of."- J Peterson)
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To: SoConPubbie

good article,thanx


51 posted on 05/15/2022 1:21:05 PM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: BobL

I think there is a third group that is stuck in a Cold War mindset.


52 posted on 05/15/2022 1:24:03 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: delchiante

You people means the kooks that actually believe Ukraine belongs to russia. John McCain was one. You apparently choose to be.


53 posted on 05/15/2022 1:24:39 PM PDT by 1forest1 (The Constitution is just a relic in a glass case)
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To: SoConPubbie

We won’t be fooled again?

Again.


54 posted on 05/15/2022 1:25:37 PM PDT by Ozguy1945 (, many others)
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To: 1forest1

No. Ukraine belongs to the DC Sewer for their Money Laundering Pipeline..

See, you people want that to continue.

I don’t


55 posted on 05/15/2022 1:26:57 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

No, but Russia is pro-spheres of influence and anti “rules-based international order”, and so am I.


56 posted on 05/15/2022 1:30:42 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Love's redeeming work is done)
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To: delchiante

I see. And that’s how you decided Putin should have Ukraine. Thanks for clarifying.


57 posted on 05/15/2022 1:32:31 PM PDT by 1forest1 (The Constitution is just a relic in a glass case)
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To: 1forest1
You people means the kooks that actually believe Ukraine belongs to russia. John McCain was one. You apparently choose to be.

Where, pray tell, did you ever hear that?

John McCain was a neocon who breathed from the mouth; he hadn't met the foreign intervention that was unworthy of an American life or limb. www.cbsnews.com

58 posted on 05/15/2022 1:34:22 PM PDT by Captain Walker ("If you think tough men are dangerous, wait until you see what weak men are capable of."- J Peterson)
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To: 1forest1

Putin can blow the DC Sewer Ukraine Money Laundering Pipeline to hell..

Trump didn’t.

See, it sucks when elections are stolen and bogus impeachments over Ukraine phone calls happen.

Hunter’s little Ukrainian world can be blown all to hell, forest.

Sucks to be a proxy but Ukraine chose the wrong team..


59 posted on 05/15/2022 1:37:39 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Lurkinanloomin

“I think there is a third group that is stuck in a Cold War mindset.”

Absolutely, and in a way, the situation leading up to Ukraine was very similar to the Cold War, with one side wanting to live their lives in peace, but finds itself constantly being harassed by the other side which is trying to impose Left Wing tyranny on the world.


60 posted on 05/15/2022 1:39:20 PM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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