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Joe Biden During Remarks on Texas Mass Shooting: “The Second Amendment is Not Absolute” (VIDEO)
The Gateway Pundit ^ | May 25, 2022 | Cristina Laila

Posted on 05/25/2022 7:32:14 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man

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To: OHPatriot

His sanity isn’t absolute, either.


41 posted on 05/25/2022 8:32:35 PM PDT by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Actually you could own an entire battleship outfitted with a dozen cannons.


42 posted on 05/25/2022 8:32:59 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: Macho MAGA Man

That is just your opinion, Joey.


43 posted on 05/25/2022 8:46:08 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: All

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His Son lied on a Federal Firearms application - and nothing came of it.

If the Republicans don’t bring this up, roll up the streets.

The Level of hypocrisy is overwhelming!

Shut up Biden with his lawless family.

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44 posted on 05/25/2022 8:53:55 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Lindsey Graham: How can anyone be Mad at Joe Biden)
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To: KrisKrinkle
"We need a “definition” of “the right to keep and bear arms” as opposed to just saying it “shall not be infringed” without stating exactly what “it” is."

No we do not. The right to keep (own, possess, and control control) and bear (carry anywhere anytime) shall not be infringed (no law may prevent). Read the Federalist Papers, they explain the Bill of Rights very clearly.

The Federalist Papers is a collection of 85 articles and essays written by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay under the collective pseudonym "Publius" to promote the ratification of the United States Constitution. The collection was commonly known as The Federalist until the name The Federalist Papers emerged in the 20th century.

45 posted on 05/25/2022 9:03:43 PM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

I think we should all buy cannons now.


46 posted on 05/25/2022 9:31:51 PM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO )
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To: WMarshal

“No we do not.”

Then why did you attempt it by applying the words “own, possess, and control” to “right to keep” and the words “carry anywhere anytime” to the word “bear”?

What is the scope, the extent of the right to keep and bear arms?

As to “no law may prevent”, would a law prohibiting an adult giving a loaded firearm to a 3 year old be an infringement? Or would that be within the scope of the right of the people to keep and bear arms because the 3 year old is one of “the people”?

What about someone who carries in hand, with finger in the trigger guard, a loaded, cocked single action revolver with a hair trigger while in a crowd? Is such activity always included in the right to keep and bear arms? Would a law prohibiting such activity absent immediate need be an infringement?


47 posted on 05/25/2022 9:51:34 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man
Its not ignorance its on purpose.
When you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth.
This is known as the “Illusion of Truth” Effect.
48 posted on 05/25/2022 9:56:23 PM PDT by 100%FEDUP (I'm seeing RED!)
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To: KrisKrinkle
Read the Federalist Papers. The words and legal phrases used in the Constitution and the Bill of Rightd were clearly understood by the legal profession of the time and by the citizenry of the Colonies. The fact that you have questions about the clear legal language of the Constitution is a symptom of the left's abuse of our language. Just as the leftists have stretched and morphed the meaning of the word "gender" beyond all Recognition in a few short years so too have they done so with the clear meanings of the words and phrases used in the Constitution. The founding fathers were highly educated people and the majority of them were in the legal profession, they planned what what they wrote and were exacting in the meaning.

Again, read the Federalist Papers and also reference a dictionary in use during the Revolutionary War.

49 posted on 05/25/2022 10:28:15 PM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man
How does he come up with these gems?

Did he go to law school?

It's going to be a big laugh on Judgment Day when the Democrats stand before God and lecture Him on what The Law is. This will happen just seconds before they are cast into the Lake of Fire.


50 posted on 05/25/2022 11:09:36 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

I pretty much agree with him!
Yes, the 2nd Should be absolute but we
... The people have Allowed thousands of infringements on it!
How is that absolute?

I wish it weren’t so but how can we deny destruction already brought on the amendment!?


51 posted on 05/25/2022 11:39:29 PM PDT by justme4now (Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Once guns have been taken away from the criminals as well as the law abiding, you will see criminals spraying gasoline on their victims and touching them off.


52 posted on 05/25/2022 11:41:24 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: old curmudgeon

No biggie, we all do it.


53 posted on 05/26/2022 12:35:07 AM PDT by jmacusa (America. Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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It is, and you’re mortal, jackass.


54 posted on 05/26/2022 2:03:05 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

“”The Second Amendment is not absolute. “

This is an Obama era talking point. When confronted by constitutional limits, Obama used the “constitution is not absolute” meme. He called his critics “absolutists” Actually, the 2A phrase that bearings arms shall not be infringed is absolutely absolute.

F Joe is on a broken loop. He just repeats the same stupid talking points like a broken talking doll.


55 posted on 05/26/2022 4:03:15 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul ("..)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

“...When it was passed, you couldn’t own a cannon...”

Yes, but a citizen could own and carry a musket which was the standard issue for the continental army. It’s why we have an entity called the “unorganized militia”, which has as it’s members, ALL able-bodied American men over the age of 18.

The unorganized militia is there for a purpose. I’m looking at all you Mr. Politicians with visions of grandeur! /spit


56 posted on 05/26/2022 4:27:43 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Fauci is a murderer)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

The Second Amendment has nothing to do with actions that take place in a “Gun-Free Zone”.


57 posted on 05/26/2022 4:43:15 AM PDT by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: WMarshal

“Again, read the Federalist Papers and also reference a dictionary in use during the Revolutionary War.”

I don’t find in the Federalist Papers something that defines or states the scope and extent of the right to keep and bear arms. Since you find it, please point it out for me. The Federalist Papers are here:

https://guides.loc.gov/federalist-papers/full-text

Samuel Johnson’s Dictionary of the mid to late 1700’s, in the third definition down under “noun n.s.”, defines a right as a “just claim”, a definition that seems most relevant here. This may be found here:

https://johnsonsdictionaryonline.com/views/search.php?term=right

Noah Webster’s Dictionary of 1828, in the tenth definition down, also defines a right as a “just claim”, which again seems most relevant here. This may be found here:

https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/right

Considering what the above definitions imply: “The right of the people to keep and bear arms” means “The just claim of the people to keep and bear arms”. In turn that implies there may be an unjust claim, a false claim. For example, one may make a claim to keep and bear a stolen firearm based on the right to keep and bear arms but all else being equal that would be an unjust claim and the firearm should be returned to the rightful owner. I don’t see that a law prohibiting the keeping and carrying of a stolen firearm would normally be an infringement.

I’m not exactly happy with the above definitions but there they are. The left will do everything they can to frame the right to keep and bear arms in an unjust light and we must fight that. I believe that to do so we must promote a better understanding of the right rather than just shouting “Shall not be infringed”. We don’t need to convince those on The Right, and we can’t convince those who support the Far Left, but there are a lot of people in the middle.


58 posted on 05/26/2022 9:16:53 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man; All

It is not absolute.

I can’t walk into Cabelas and buy an assault weapon. It’s illegal.

Only those who join the Army get them.


59 posted on 05/26/2022 11:52:58 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED is absolute. There are no words modifying that language. All laws, taxes and regulations, all required registrations and permits on all forms of ARMS are prima facie unConstitutional with the possible exception of the involuntary servitude clause in the 13th AMD which can be construed to allow barring of arms to legally incarcerated felons, petty infractors and lunatics. If every school has a sign prominently displayed on all of its outside doorways declaring truthfully that teachers and staff are all trained and licensed to concealed carry, there will be no more mass school shootings and the armed teachers and staff will never be required to shoot in defense of the pupils. These agents of Satan will not go to a school to do their boss's work if they think they might be shot before they have raked up a score to enable them to go out in a blaze of infamous glory.
60 posted on 05/26/2022 2:18:06 PM PDT by arthurus (| covfefe fep)
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