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There’s A Massive Red Flag That Could Spell Disaster For Americans’ Pension Plans
Daily Caller ^ | December 27, 2022 1:08 PM ET | LAUREL DUGGAN SOCIAL ISSUES AND CULTURE REPORTER

Posted on 12/28/2022 7:21:31 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: Magnum44

My wife was examining her 401 balances yesterday as I began getting documents for our ITRs. She said I did not realize my 401 actually went down 25% this year. She was planning on retiring this coming year and is now “rethinking” that.

I pointed out it is all funny money anyway. The big winners from prior years all have Price ratios of 1000 to one. Eventually that catches up with them. Even the oils I have 100% invested in are down 20% or so this year and they make money and pay dividends. Like I said, all funny money. My advice, invest in wheel barrel making firms so you can cart your cash around.

Something else to consider, all those democrat bureaucrats around DC who are still working from home doing nothing of value will get a huge raise on Jan 1st.


21 posted on 12/28/2022 8:02:49 AM PST by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: Red Badger

The funds never seem to run low for welfare and illegals.


22 posted on 12/28/2022 8:13:36 AM PST by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: oldplayer

So yours is not a government pension plan?


23 posted on 12/28/2022 8:23:34 AM PST by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: Red Badger

The prevailing advice seems to be to wait to collect because you’ll get more, but I didn’t for several reasons: the economy and inflation, whether the funds will even be there later, and with my health issues, if *I’ll* even be around to collect.

I figure I might as well take what I can while I can.


24 posted on 12/28/2022 8:29:15 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: metmom

I took SS at 66 1/3 when I was first eligible for my age group.

I out it in the bank, as I am still working.

I offset the taxes on it by putting a goodly portion of it into my IRA.

At the end of the year I fill out the 1040 to see how much I need to Add to the IRA, since you can make deposits all the way to April 15th for the PREVIOUS YEAR!................


25 posted on 12/28/2022 8:36:40 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: wny

“government pension plans are outrageous”

Not saying I don’t understand your sentiment, the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS) ain’t all that great. Depending on how long you were in the federal system, and when you retire, you are looking at 1 to 1.1% of your high salary X the number of years. And that amount is before any survivor benefit, health insurance, and life insurance. So for me, with the fed being a second career (17 years), my gross is about $1,600. If I took all of the above, my net take home would be around $700 a month BEFORE taxes. I don’t need their health insurance or most of their life insurance (way too expensive). So, I am looking at getting $1,000 or $1.100 a month before taxes. That is as a GS-12. Just saying.


26 posted on 12/28/2022 8:58:24 AM PST by MPJackal ("From my cold dead hands." )
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To: cgbg
More importantly, the sociopaths who made the promises will be dead when the system goes belly up—leaving somebody else holding the bag.

Same problem occurs when Congress passes laws & spending bills that negatively impact future generations. E.g., $1.7 Trillion Ominbus Bill, Expanded SS benefits, Medicare/Medicaid/Welfare/Food Stamps/Bail-Outs/Assorted Fed Grants & Earmarks.

27 posted on 12/28/2022 9:01:26 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: MPJackal

The general public does not understand much about FERS at all—as you say.

One advantage of it is that FERS allows individuals to still collect Social Security at the same time, and also has a matching .gov contribution of 5% to the TSP.

With all three pieces in place it is a decent deal—though certainly not an extravagant one.


28 posted on 12/28/2022 10:53:55 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Red Badger
“The insolvency of many pension funds, which was caused by making promises that could never be paid, will eventually rear its head in a financial crisis — it is just a question of when the music will stop and who will be left without a seat,” E.J. Antoni, research fellow for regional economics at The Heritage Foundation, told the DCNF.

In plain English, Politicians overpromised to union thugs regarding their dues payors defined benefit plans in exchange for votes keeping the union thug President and the elected official elected. Both have long split the scene and are now laughing and golfing in Florida for us to bail out this political corruption.

29 posted on 12/28/2022 10:59:22 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Red Badger

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30 posted on 12/28/2022 12:13:23 PM PST by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: cgbg

The numbers are that a little less than half of Americans have 401Ks, Roths or similar savings for retirement
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I should be safe for a while yet, I’m 77 and have income from stocks that gets reinvested. a 450% funded private pension plan plus a relatively high social security check. Health insurance provided by former employer, a Fortune 500 company.


31 posted on 12/28/2022 3:55:08 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: Red Badger

87k new agents on the way.


32 posted on 12/28/2022 4:02:08 PM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite prayer warriors. 10.5.6.5)
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To: MPJackal

the Constitution does not allow the government to take my money to pay people not to work....

just sayin....


33 posted on 12/29/2022 5:12:32 AM PST by wny
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To: Red Badger

From last year...

https://californiaglobe.com/articles/us-pension-funds-lost-400-billion-on-china-investments-in-july/

From September...

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/calstrs-considers-hiring-china-focused-equity-managers-first-time-2022-09-13/


34 posted on 12/29/2022 5:22:00 AM PST by mewzilla (We wwonder what percentage ofill never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: mewzilla; Red Badger

Oh, boy. Sounds like somebody’s fleeing the sinking ship. From earlier this month...

https://www.pionline.com/pension-funds/calpers-calstrs-need-fresh-skills-take-new-risks-outgoing-board-member-yee-says

Note to CA pensioners: INCOMING!!!!!


35 posted on 12/29/2022 5:24:17 AM PST by mewzilla (We wwonder what percentage ofill never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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