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More Space Travel Problems for ETs: g-forces
PatriotandLiberty ^ | 2023 | Jonathan Sarfati

Posted on 07/19/2023 1:23:49 AM PDT by spirited irish

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They’re just popping in and out of that wormhole over at Skinwalker Ranch. Just saw them doing it in tv yesterday.


21 posted on 07/19/2023 4:55:39 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: spirited irish
Plausibly, ET craft are able to counteract gravity and distort (yes, warp) space so as to travel in a bubble of normal space that is essentially stationary. The conjectural Alcubierre drive achieves faster than light travel by expanding space behind a craft and contracting it in front.

Intriguingly, some film and video shows distortions close to UFOs moving at high velocities. That is what one would expect of a craft using an Alcubierre type drive.

22 posted on 07/19/2023 4:59:47 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: spirited irish
“Warp seven Mr Data, engage.”

Problem solved.
23 posted on 07/19/2023 5:09:44 AM PDT by The Louiswu (PEDO JOE MUST GO!!!)
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To: spirited irish

If they have mastered gravity, then they mastered g-forces.


24 posted on 07/19/2023 5:10:19 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: spirited irish

Well don’t all advanced spacecraft have their own artificial gravity!!??


25 posted on 07/19/2023 5:14:23 AM PDT by sit-rep
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To: RandallFlagg

I love it, too.


26 posted on 07/19/2023 5:19:53 AM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: spirited irish

“engineers” (IEEE types, mechanical, etc) are a funny bunch.

They make so many assumptions and, normal people find themselves asking - rhetorically - do those guys every USE the products they push onto the rest of us?

I recall a time in our not-to-distant past of, oh, preflight era, late 1800’s, where it had been proven MATHEMATICALLY that man could not fly, indeed, it had been PROVEN a bumblebee could not fly.

Well, here we are, the sky is FULL of flying things, despite engineers’ protestations to the contrary.

I’ve seen UAP’s, and there is video of UAP’s all over the web doing impossible things - according to science, “engineers.”

I’m thinking, IF there are advanced alien races, and they are visiting our planet, AND their craft are capable of things like 6,000 mph flight in atmosphere without sonic booms, or 90-degree turns at such velocities, their cultures evolved WITHOUT engineers telling them what wasn’t possible.


27 posted on 07/19/2023 5:26:07 AM PDT by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America ‘tween MD and TN)
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To: spirited irish

I’m wondering how much of a performance difference exists between the fighter jet that has to accommodate a human pilot and keep them functioning and one that is remotely or A.I. piloted that has only nominal structural limitations of the craft to consider? I’m guessing we move first to remotely piloted attack aircraft then to semi-autonomous A.I. piloted craft after that. Skynet comes in here somewhere as well....


28 posted on 07/19/2023 5:28:56 AM PDT by desertsolitaire ( )
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To: spirited irish

The aliens are spun around on a merry-go-round inside the UFO at 14,000 mps/ps acceleration. This counteracts any planetary gravity. It also throws their popcorn all over. This is why they stop suddenly to clean up the mess.


29 posted on 07/19/2023 5:29:10 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (Don't shoot until you see the whites of their lies)
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To: Purpleperson

Those are for kindergarten earthlings and their understanding earthing physics. For every problem there’s been a solution. For cultures thousands of years more advanced than ours, what’s the probability they opened new doors and walked through them?


30 posted on 07/19/2023 5:38:41 AM PDT by himno hero (had'nff)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I’ve always been fascinated by astrophysics. Most of it is over my head, but what you have described makes perfect sense.


31 posted on 07/19/2023 5:47:47 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: spirited irish
Assuming they don't know more about physics than we do, that would be true. Consider, for example, when they accelerate their ship that the force of acceleration is applied to every molecule in the ship rather than just its structure. Now the applied forces are not unbalanced with respect to the occupants and they don't experience those "g-forces".

Here is the deal: Those things are here and are doing things we cannot do. What is the point of explaining why they can't be here or performing like the do when they clearly are? Doesn't it make more sense to find answers that fit the observations?

All a civilization had to do in order to be 2000 years ahead of us is to avoid the Dark Ages. We are merely 150 years into our heavy duty physics and engineering.

32 posted on 07/19/2023 6:00:41 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Apparatchik
And you know this to be true because….?

It fits the observation better than saying they can't accelerate as observed.

33 posted on 07/19/2023 6:01:49 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Telepathic Intruder

When I had a conversation with Frank Borman, he assured me that the toughest part of spaceflight was the 9G acceleration. Lack of gravity is not the same issue as g-forces.


34 posted on 07/19/2023 6:04:44 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Rockingham

Gravity has nothing to do with g-forces. G-force is what you feel when you are pushed back into your seat when you accelerate your car or the strain on your seat when you press on the brake. The Apollo astronauts experienced 9Gs when the Saturn V was pushing them into orbit. It is what hurts jet pilots when they make turns at high speed.


35 posted on 07/19/2023 6:15:05 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: spirited irish
C'mon its simple. You don't need all this mombo-jumbo nonsense calculations.

When you go through warp, space is moving not you. You just go along for the ride. Once you arrive at the point you calculated as your destination, you just dump out of warp and your there!

It's as easy as falling off a log


36 posted on 07/19/2023 6:16:03 AM PDT by CapnJack ( )
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

You misinterpret what I was attempting to say, because I did not make myself clear enough.

When in free fall within a gravity well, such as when orbit around a body, you feel no apparent gravity because there is nothing to resist the acceleration of your body within the gravitational field. You only “feel” gravity when you are being pulled against a stationary object (the floor, for example.)

If “gravity” is a particle, say, then who is to say that a particle of equal but opposite “charge” or “pull” couldn’t be created to cancel out either the effects of inertial acceleration and gravity “particles” from a large mass.

We are very good at describing the effects of inertia and mass-induced “gravitational pull” but we are incapable of describing the ‘why.’


37 posted on 07/19/2023 6:16:07 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Purpleperson
This is why we would have seen robot drones long before alien life

Perhaps any 'aliens' we might encounter could be advanced avatars and not biological...

It won't be too long before we often see avatars operated remotely by people, imagine the same tech but refined by thousands of years of development...

Package delivery is a good example where people remotely operating avatars makes sense. FedEx avatars with remote operators will be a thing long before autonomous robots can handle the job...

38 posted on 07/19/2023 6:28:21 AM PDT by Bobalu (I'm homesick for a country that no longer exists...)
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To: spirited irish

The technology required for such travel is far beyond what we currently use. It is a problem that was likely solved generations ago.


39 posted on 07/19/2023 6:28:44 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Yo-Yo

Gravity does not seem to be a classical force, it is a distortion of spacetime. You can find an easy way to turn a force on and off... but there is no known off switch for gravity.. if you had a way to turn it off then you could create a perpetual motion device... ditto for magnetism..

Zero gravity only exists at Lagrange points, weightlessness like you experience on the space station is artificial weightlessness. It is easy to create both artificial weightlessness and artificial gravity.. just spin a spacecraft and you have artificial gravity... orbit around a large object and you get artificial weightlessness.


40 posted on 07/19/2023 6:40:12 AM PDT by Bobalu (I'm homesick for a country that no longer exists...)
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