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Liberals admit they want to get rid of the lumber industry in Oregon (Sunbray)
Rumble ^ | 1/27/24 | bray

Posted on 01/28/2024 6:01:30 AM PST by bray

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To: bray
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Ephesians 6:12-13 (King James Version)

Amen. We are bombarded with evil from every angle, even those we long to trust, at times. But do not compromise yourself, any more than God would. Have faith that He and His principles will not lead you astray, but will instead give you the protection you need. Change what you can. Limit your exposure to what you can not.

21 posted on 01/28/2024 6:37:30 AM PST by Golden Eagle (It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them that they've been fooled.)
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To: bray; little jeremiah

oregon is getting the daily double:

oregon forest industry + colombia river hydro


22 posted on 01/28/2024 6:38:13 AM PST by thinden (buckle up ....)
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To: bray

Would be much better if the sane part of Oregon kicked out the insane leftist part. Same with Washington state and California.


23 posted on 01/28/2024 6:43:22 AM PST by McGavin999 ( A sense of humor is a sign of intelligence, leftists have no sense of humor, therefore……)
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To: cgbg

They are liars who never want you to know their true plans for your death. Don’t you love how many are virtue signaling with their masks.


24 posted on 01/28/2024 6:43:29 AM PST by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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To: Bob434

In Oregon the Fed controls 50,000 sq miles you cannot live on and the state 10,000 sq miles. They can give it away and be money ahead.


25 posted on 01/28/2024 6:44:55 AM PST by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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To: unread

There are more than you think its just that there are none in Portland and it controls/steals the state.


26 posted on 01/28/2024 6:47:22 AM PST by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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To: bray
The defenders of forestry are failing to see and wield the weapons available to them, chief of which is the ESA as "authorized" by treaty, principally The Convention on Nature Protection and Wild Life Preservation in the Western Hemisphere. The key language goes as follows: “The Governments of the American Republics, wishing to protect and preserve in their natural habitat representatives of all species and genera of their native flora and fauna, including migratory birds, in sufficient numbers and over areas extensive enough to assure them from becoming extinct through any agency within man’s control;” Managing forests is within man's control. If we don't do it, the process of "preservation" will eventually induce mass extinctions.

The argument goes like this: Uninterrupted vegetative succession suppresses the expression of native annual plants, and therefore the specific insect life that depends upon those species. Wait long enough without disturbance, and that seed bank dies. Allow a soil sterilizing fire and that seed bank dies.

The lack of a timber industry means there is no funding for control of invasive exotic species after a fire or timber harvest. An atmosphere enriched with carbon dioxide has pushed the accrual of fuel beyond its natural limits. That fuel must be removed, or the result will be mass extinctions.

There is gobs of "expert opinion" pointing out the pre-colonial history of aboriginal forest management by fire. That process sustained those post-disturbance annual plants, bugs, and fungi. In fact, given that the anthropogenic practice continued for 10,000 years, the entire composition of species was selected for that process of regular anthropogenic periodic disturbance. They cannot continue without it.

Wield the ESA against these thugs. They'll never let it go; they think it's theirs. Drive it down their throats.

I first proposed that "Strategy of the Commoners" in Natural Process, my first book published in 2001. Why it has never been deployed mystifies me.

27 posted on 01/28/2024 6:52:00 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: bray
BTW, you can read a similar argument about mass extinctions due to "preservation" here.

Wildergarten is our native plant restoration project of some 34 years, considered by many to be the finest in the world.

28 posted on 01/28/2024 6:58:50 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Don’t confuse them with science.


29 posted on 01/28/2024 7:06:27 AM PST by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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To: bray

What better way to sequester CO2 than to turn trees into lumber and grow new trees?


30 posted on 01/28/2024 7:11:58 AM PST by Paladin2
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Don’t confuse them with science.

I have no intention of confusing them. I want them defeated. Going after them for mass extinctions will leave them bewildered, but the continuing loss of locally adapted alleles due to their policy preferences is undeniable.

Take the moral high ground or lose. Your choice.

31 posted on 01/28/2024 7:13:50 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: bray

Trees are the ultimate renewable resource


32 posted on 01/28/2024 7:19:32 AM PST by digger48
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To: bray

Liberals continue their collective mental illness. They are the poster children of devolution.


33 posted on 01/28/2024 7:36:06 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp??)
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To: bray

Utopians are the first to starve and freeze to death.


34 posted on 01/28/2024 7:54:06 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: bray
Debate only works if people are willing to listen to another point of view, and consider it.

The progressive left simply wants you dead, the world depopulated, and the remnants controlled and shared by them, who know best.

More talk is pissing in the wind. It serves to stall their opposition while they continue to destroy the country, not bound by formal rules of civility, which in reality is only a thin veneer, a dodge, that they use as a weapon, holding us to it.

Voting, the court system, and civil codes have all been hijacked and corrupted, twisted into actual weapons to foist their vision of utopia on civilization.

35 posted on 01/28/2024 8:18:43 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

What good are trees if they aren’t going to be used to build stuff?

= = =

The trees are home to Spotted Owls.

Spotted Owls may have lice.

We can harvest the lice and eat them.


36 posted on 01/28/2024 8:28:18 AM PST by Scrambler Bob
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To: bray

Outstanding catch!


37 posted on 01/28/2024 9:17:52 AM PST by Enterprise ( )
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Who needs food, clothing & shelter? It’s all overrated anyway.


38 posted on 01/28/2024 10:23:53 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: going hot

Stay tuned.


39 posted on 01/28/2024 10:48:48 AM PST by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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To: Enterprise

I was shocked when they said it and I had it on tape.


40 posted on 01/28/2024 10:49:36 AM PST by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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