Posted on 10/07/2006 1:42:35 PM PDT by sachem longrifle
Don't forget that the early exit polls on election day 2004 had Kerry ahead. Of course, those who vote early are more likely unbusy Democrats who tend to have nothing else to do.
Only thing in meltdown is Newsweeks circulation.
Have you read their dribble lately?
I'm sure it will be a headline like that. But people with any common sense at all know that can't be right and so they lose yet more of their dwindling credibility. The circulation drops yet some more. They lay off yet more people. Fewer advertisers spend money with them.
They sold their credibility and hence their economic viability to further their political agendas and it has put them all into a death spiral.
No I wanted to compare the repubs polling in the 2002 midterm as compared to how they are polling today in 2006. i dont remember the news being quite this bad
exactly, this is propaganda 101, they did the same thing before Nov. 2004 and it didn't work.(well, I'm sure it worked some, W would have won by a larger margin in a more fair environment)
And as I told you, it is completly irrelevent. The sample size Dem-Rep-Indy is changed in every Newsweak poll. They NEVER poll the same way. SO a 2002 Newsweak poll that polled 40-35-25 (Demp-Rep-Ind) probably was changed based on these results to be 50-30-20. A couple of weeks ago CBS did at 50-35-15 poll. WHO they poll massively shifts the outcome. Two weeks ago Gallup did a 48-48% poll and found a virtual tie. Polls are NOISE. All that matters is WHO shows up on Nov 7th. Intresting thing. Rassmussen does a daily Presidential approval poll. IT shows almost NO change over the last week.
As apparently you are.
Really? You don't remember when the MSM had to disrregard their own biased exit polls on election night 2002.
Ditto on everything you wrote. I totally agree.
do you mean 2004 or 2002?
It was after the 2002 mid-term elections that the MSM exit polling service VNS(voter news service) was disbanded, because of their liberal bias and wrong results.
But the commie left thinks conservatives have a short memory when they trot out their biased polls.
Elephants have long memories.
How about the early polls that caused certain MSM networks to call Florida for Gore? A lot of panhandle Republicans went home without voting, leaving the entire US with the Bush/Gore recount debacle.
Especially the ones that still have 4 or 5 more polling places to get to before they close.
Here is the poll I was talking about:
Source link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061006/pl_afp/uspoliticsscandal_ 061006203242;_ylt=Ap.koQzadfTtLbDRYHgFBTjJ76Mv; _ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
"Time said its poll suggested a scandal over lurid e-mails and instant text messages sent by former representative Mark Foley (news, bio, voting record) to teenage Congressional pages had "dented" Republican hopes of retaining control of the Senate and House after November 7."
"It said almost 80 percent of the 1,002 people it asked this week were aware of the scandal and believe Republican leaders tried to cover it up. One quarter said it made them less likely to vote Republican in the election."
"Among registered voters, 54 percent said they were more likely to vote Democrat and 39 percent favoured Republican. Time said the margin has jumped 11 percentage points from a similar poll in June."
I just can't trust this poll. To believe it, is to believe that 80% of the people are very naive and uninformed.
A U.K. reporter wrote (paraphrased) "If the U.S. media had not been so biased, Sen. Dole might have had a chance."
THIS is what launched my crusade to reform the polls in '96, with my "Truth In Polling Act" (TIPA) website, calling for, among other things, forcing pollsters to publish their demographics and info on who they called.
Congress passed its own bill without any help from me, but they did mandate publishing demographics. Turns out some polls just kept calling the same people over and over. Gallup used to sign people up on a list. Naturally, most people that want to talk to a poll, have a political axe to grind. There just isn't any such thing as an accurate poll.
The poll you mentioned is one of the bad ones from '96, and it reflects what we 'fear' might happen. They play on our fears, because this is propoganda from the beginning. When I go into 'working retirement' in 2008, to ride around in an RV helping campaigns and writing books, etc, I might just write a book on the usage of polls in todays media. When you are a lazy liberal, you can pull a story from some stupid numbers some unnamed guy made up overnight. Why hit the streets looking for stories when you can sit comfortably for hours trying to make the GOP look bad with fake poll data?
So, no, I don't believe this poll. One bad apple is not going to ruin the whole barrel here. Also... the Demo's will put this fire out soon, I predict, because this double-edged sword can cut them worse than us... if they keep going with this they are going to offend a large part of their membership. I predict it all becomes non-issue and will not damage the election much. It certainly has taken the steam out of the rising tide of good news for the GOP the last few weeks (economy, etc) but I think the DNC will still be toast.
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