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Dell Press Release: We're going to pre-install Ubuntu
Enterprise Linux News ^ | May 1st | Jack Loftus

Posted on 05/01/2007 7:03:31 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

LOL

“MS Works” is one of my favorite oxymorons. :-)


41 posted on 05/01/2007 3:49:44 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (How ironic is it that me, a linux user, swears by microsoft keyboards and mice?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I downloaded Ubuntu on an old computer. I liked it except for the fact that Apple doesn’t support Quicktime and iTunes for it. And WMV from windows. Being that I like watching movie trailers and various humorous videos online, this is really a deal breaker for me. But those are really the only problems I have with it.


42 posted on 05/01/2007 4:10:40 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (What brings you to the good part of the wrong side of the tracks?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
So they’re completely different.

Your response is misdirected. I was referring to the "car and engine" analogy, where Linux and Microsoft design the software and other manufacturers design the hardware. In that situation, the operating system is targeted to generic, lowest common denominator type of hardware - resulting in a less-than-optimal system. In contrast, Apple designs both the hardware and the software with better component integration to maximize the quality of the system.

Regarding office software for Macs - Apple does include a free 30-day trial period for the iWork package (word processor and presentation software for $80). There are rumors that Apple will provide the next version of iWork for free on new Macs, and will add a spreadsheet to the suite. This could happen in October when Mac OS X 10.5 is released.

43 posted on 05/01/2007 4:42:06 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I’m not impressed with Ubuntu in the least...I just simply don’t need the training wheels. Ubuntu doesn’t even come close to making my top 10. Glad to see Dell offering a choice though. Any of you OSSers tried PC Linux OS?? I’m liking it alot. It offers a nice blend of easy installation, tweakability, and doesn’t make the assumption that you’re losing two drops of sweat with every mouse click and constantly re-assuring you that everything is going to be okay.


44 posted on 05/01/2007 8:11:28 PM PDT by Space Wrangler
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To: Golden Eagle
So is this still Michael Dell saying *NO*? Most of us have an idea as to how long it takes any company to make a change such as this (let alone one with the size and contractual obligations of Dell). You have been saying for two years that this would never happen..

Now of course you’re focusing on the fact it took dell two years and not the fact they got spanked into the number two spot and have had thousands upon thousands of customers ask for it.

This is good news for Dell, Consumers, and Linux. Myself I would have preferred they went with RedHat who has not painted themselves into the corner of only OSS but not having a huge amount of experience with Ubuntu I cant spit on Dells decision. You’re lack of insight never stops you though.

45 posted on 05/01/2007 8:52:10 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: N3WBI3
You have been saying for two years that this would never happen..

No I haven't, I've been correcting the lies that it already had happened as for the months if not years we've seen these threads. But as other posters on this thread admit, you STILL can't get a standard desktop from Dell with Linux on it LOL.

46 posted on 05/01/2007 9:18:57 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
"Dell sees how terribly the "zealots" as you referred to them hate the world's richest man and other capitalists, and probably wants to steer clear of them." -- Golden Eagle

"Dell got very rich and very famous selling computers that run Windows. He knows most of the Linux crowd builds their own boxes and despise the future (DRM). Obviously based onhis actions he cares little for their supposed plight, nor should he." -- Golden Eagle

"Dell is insulating his home users from the trauma of having to deal with it." -- Golden Eagle

And one of my favorites..

"They're still not planning on actually shipping any systems with Linux pre-installed." --

47 posted on 05/02/2007 3:47:23 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Why should I bother with Ubuntu? I’m perfectly happy with the MSFT.


48 posted on 05/02/2007 5:00:18 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (I don't give a rat's a$$ where in the world Matt Lauer is.)
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To: N3WBI3

Out of the countless threads created here over the months/years falsely claiming Dell was shipping Linux on desktops, and that’s the best you can find? LOL funniest of all Dell STILL isn’t shipping Linux on home desktops. No, funniest of ALL is how your lives seem to rotate around free software backed by leftists and given away for free.


49 posted on 05/02/2007 5:26:18 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
GE the *vast* majority of the threads you talk about are not saying dell is shipping on the desktop (though admittedly there has been debate about workstation vs desktop on a thread or two) they are saying Dell *WILL* or *SHOULD* ship Linux on the desktop. Now Dell has all but said as much! So the people who two months ago were saying 'this is going to happen' were right! and the people saying Dell wont do this were wrong, and the people hedging their bets by using the words 'probably wont' were also wrong!

When the weather man says its going to snow in 24 hours do you run to the window and, seeing no snow at the moment, call him a liar? Thats basically what you have been doing for literally months.

Dell is going to put Linux on the desktop.. And you thought they never would..

50 posted on 05/02/2007 5:32:22 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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Why should I bother with Ubuntu?

Because these guys fiercely believe in "free software" as trumpeted by leftist radical Richard Stallman (stallman.org). They constantly create these threads pimping anything and everything to do with free software, then when called on it admit there's tons of leftists fanatics behind free software, but then go right back to pushing it. Search for the word "leftist" in halfman's posting history to see what I mean.

51 posted on 05/02/2007 5:32:41 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: N3WBI3

There’s been countless threads claiming Dell was already shipping or imminently shipping Linux which were all false. LOL don’t act innocent, you’re still going around claiming Windows 2000 is “unsupported” even though anyone can continue to automatically receive security updates till 2010! Anything you think you can get away with to push free software on others.


52 posted on 05/02/2007 5:36:50 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: CholeraJoe

Then, you should not.

A good question is:

Why should you bother jumping on this thread when you have never used the product and start to pan it?


53 posted on 05/02/2007 5:37:09 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: N3WBI3

I don’t use this “ubuntu” and I will never use “ubuntu” after hearing Bill Clinton talk about “ubuntu” either. There’s tons of leftists behind free software, the DNC runs all their servers on it, Howard Dean talks about “open source politics” and they even have a site named “demzilla.com” as a tribute. That’s why.


54 posted on 05/02/2007 5:41:45 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
There’s been countless threads claiming Dell was already shipping or imminently shipping Linux which were all false.

Short on reading comprehension today, need coffee? what do you think I meant when I sad disagreement about workstation vs. desktop debate? Yes there were a couple of threads which, if you consider dell 'workstations' to be something other than a suped up desktop would have been wrong and if you consider these 'workstations' to be just a high end desktop would have been right. The whole desktop / workstation thing is a moving target and there is nothing definitive out there (from say IEEE) saying what the difference between the classes in the market place should be. Currently its all about marketing. Its that whole 'lets have an adult discussion' rather than 'lets run around picking fights' thing again, look into it.

The *vast* majority of threads, especially in the past couple of months have been about dell *starting* to offer Linux on their lower end desktops. In these threads you have openly mocked the idea it would happen..

LOL don’t act innocent .....

blah blah blah, stay on topic and stop thread jumping the mod has warned you about such things and I have told you I'm not getting dragged into a two yo thread every time you don't like the way a conversation is going. IMO talking about this thread and this topic if you care to join me please continue.

55 posted on 05/02/2007 5:45:41 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: Golden Eagle
I don’t use this “ubuntu”

So you are not qualified to comment on how user friendly or stable it is.

Bill Clinton talk about “ubuntu” either.

Yea after heing him tell a kid that an Apple a day keeps the doctor away I swore off the mac /sarc

56 posted on 05/02/2007 5:47:06 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: N3WBI3; Golden Eagle
Why should you bother jumping on this thread when you have never used the product and start to pan it?

See post #51. Golden Eagle said it all.

57 posted on 05/02/2007 5:49:59 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (I don't give a rat's a$$ where in the world Matt Lauer is.)
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Said what?

To a man the people who he groups in with 'they' have called stallamn a nut job and a waco and wish he would just go away. And your first post in this thread had nothing to do with that it was trying to slam an OS you dont use and have no experience with.

if MS works for you *great* I am really happy that you have the right tool for you to use. and if in 10 years MS marketshare is even higher than today *great* so long as consumers have choice what they choose is fine by me (and for that matter most people who ge calls 'they').

58 posted on 05/02/2007 5:55:53 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: N3WBI3

I don’t care if it cooks me breakfast after making up my bed every morning, it’s backed by leftists at the top and their brainwashed disciples at the bottom and I won’t be using it. It’s just a cheap clone of Apple’s OSX anyway, if I wanted that I’d get the real deal.


59 posted on 05/02/2007 5:56:54 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: HAL9000

^^^^^^^^^^^^Your response is misdirected. I was referring to the “car and engine” analogy, where Linux and Microsoft design the software and other manufacturers design the hardware.^^^^^^^^^^^^

Fair enough.

^^^^^^^^^^^^There are rumors that Apple will provide the next version of iWork for free on new Macs, and will add a spreadsheet to the suite. This could happen in October when Mac OS X 10.5 is released.^^^^^^^^^^

Good for them. And for their customers’ sake, I hope it happens.

Call me pro added-value. :-P


60 posted on 05/02/2007 5:59:10 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (How ironic is it that me, a linux user, swears by microsoft keyboards and mice?)
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