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This Week in History: Star Trek: The Next Generation Celebrates 20 Years
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Posted on 09/29/2007 5:01:55 AM PDT by Daffynition

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1 posted on 09/29/2007 5:01:59 AM PDT by Daffynition
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Leonard Nimoy thought it was hard to capture "lighting from a bottle" twice. But TNG succeeded by being its own show and for the most part it told interesting stories well and introduced Star Trek fans to a new breed of villain: The Borg. It went off the air in 1994 and when I watch it today, the show still seems as compelling as during the seven years of its production. It had successors but no real imitators, I think.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 09/29/2007 5:08:08 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Daffynition

Counselor Troi !


3 posted on 09/29/2007 5:11:51 AM PDT by csvset
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TNG opened up more complex storylines, drama and ensemble acting to go along with the better special effects ...

...none of which could alter the fact that STTNG was incredibly boring, politically naive, and with the exception of the lead had a leaden bunch of actors. It turned the original show--which was nothing but a fun adventure story, with likable characters and colorful adventures--into a dull-looking UN in space. The racism of the original show was still present--all Klingons warlike, all Vulcans logical, etc.--but the underlying message was nauseatingly liberal.

The cheesy effects (nothing ever looked gritty or believable) weren't as fun as the cheesy FX of the original. The music was trite, as opposed to the meaty dramatic scores of the original. It was like watching a lecture in space every week. The few good episodes went back to the values of the original--interesting (as opposed to merely clever and tricky) stories, exciting action, people in peril.

Farscape and even the somewhat overrated Firefly are far superior to TNG, with Firefly being more old-fashioned and having interesting characters, while Farscape was truly out there.

TNG never took chances, the characters were dull (a robot that wants to be human--yeah, ok, ok, we get it, we get it!), and I can't figure out its popularity.

4 posted on 09/29/2007 5:13:25 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist living in Boston)
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Remmber how wooden and lifeless Picard and his crew were when TNG started? It took almost two seasons before they came to life on the screen. I almost couldn’t watch it. If it hadn’t been a continuation of Star Trek the show would probably not have made it. So many millions of fans wanted it to make it becuase of the need for more Star Trek.


5 posted on 09/29/2007 5:15:03 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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Farscape was great. Much better than TNG especially in the beginning. TNG did come around if you could get past the tacit lectures about socialism. Some of the characters grew and became palatable.

The Crushers were horrendously obnoxious. Wesley and his boy genius and Beverly constantly lecturing. Yuck.

My favorite was always Tasha Yar.

6 posted on 09/29/2007 5:20:00 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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I think it took pacifist liberal Gene Roddenberry's death to improve the show, by making it darker and emphasizing more of Starfleet's "militariness" in the show's later seasons.

Still, I'll take TOS over TNG any day.

7 posted on 09/29/2007 5:26:41 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: raybbr

I wish they’d show Lexx again, that series was different.


8 posted on 09/29/2007 5:29:20 AM PDT by csvset
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9 posted on 09/29/2007 5:45:01 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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LOL!

Are there others like that?


10 posted on 09/29/2007 6:20:52 AM PDT by NucSubs (Rudy Giuliani 2008! Our liberal democrat is better than theirs!)
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11 posted on 09/29/2007 6:32:47 AM PDT by Boxen (If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate!)
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Also, this may be an unpopular opinion among trekkies, but I always really liked DS9.


12 posted on 09/29/2007 6:34:12 AM PDT by Boxen (If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate!)
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To: NucSubs
Dozens. Just search under star+trek+poster (or toss the term "motivational" in there somewhere) Here's another one I like:


13 posted on 09/29/2007 6:36:51 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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14 posted on 09/29/2007 8:51:21 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: raybbr

I could not stand the Crushers, in fact just looking at Beverly made me feel ill.
Last week for some reason my girlfriend bought me a Star Trek book. I took one look at the cover and realized that it’s a “Bev” story. UGH!!


15 posted on 09/29/2007 8:58:17 AM PDT by mowowie
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NSWF: Touché .
16 posted on 09/29/2007 9:11:11 AM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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But if you put it side by side with the Original Series, it's a huge creative leap.

Total baloney

To the Hollywood lefties of the 1980's, Kirk = Reagan and Picard = Dukakis/Mondale.
Although the original show was low budget and at times hokie, they at times used scripts from actual published science fiction writers. What the TNG hacks never understood was that conflict is the essence of drama. They had way too many characters that weren't half as entertaining as Kirk_Spock_McCoy. Compare:

Original Star Trek...
Spock: "Unidentified object approaching at warp 12, Captain"
Uhuru:"Not responding to any frequencies Captain."
Kirk:"Shields up, lock on photon torpedos Mr. Sulu"
Sulu:"Aye Sir"
Crash! Space weapon hits Enterprise.
McCoy:"What are you doing to my sick bay!"
Kirk:"Fire photon torpedos Mr.Sulu!"
bweebweebweebwee
Sulu:"A direct hit Sir!"

Star Trek TNG
Warf: "Unidentified object approaching at warp 12, Captain"
Data:"Not responding to any frequencies Captain."
Picard:"What do you make of this number one?"
Number One:"Hard to say. I advise caution"
Picard:"Counselor Troi?"
Counselor Troi:"I...I...Don't know...I'm picking up...conflict....great pain...confusion...I think we should wait before doing anything rash."
Crash! Space weapon hits Enterprise
Warf:"This entity may be hostile. I recomend we raise the sheilds"
Picard:"Make it so, number one. Place the order to raise the aft shields. I'll be in the holodeck if anyone needs me."
Etc, etc.

17 posted on 09/29/2007 9:14:02 AM PDT by Thudd (Mixing matter with anti-matter since 1967)
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To: raybbr
It took almost two seasons before they came to life on the screen. I almost couldn’t watch it.

I didn't last two years ... you were very patient.


18 posted on 09/29/2007 9:15:56 AM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: iceskater; MrB; brivette; gcruse; wingnutx; Brett66; RightWhale; EsmeraldaA; Paul_Denton; ...
I didn't get into the TNG until the 3rd or 4th season.. It was the Borg episode.. The last season was total crap except the series final...

The trek shows I like are TOS, TNG, DS9 and ST:ENT. The trek show I hate is Voyager...


19 posted on 09/29/2007 1:53:36 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Mitt Romney 08)
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Voyager had a lot of potentail, but the socialists running the ST franchise really screwed it up.


20 posted on 09/29/2007 3:09:56 PM PDT by nuke rocketeer
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