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Why is the Earth moving away from the sun?
New Scientist ^ | Monday, June 1, 2009 | Kelly Beatty, Sky and Telescope

Posted on 06/01/2009 6:59:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: SunkenCiv
So Global Warming has another scientific data obstacle looming. Solar minimum, prograde motion, CO2 seasonal decline in the northern hemisphere, record low tides in the N. Pacific and Blue Whales off Long Island.

And I thought the fur growing on my ass was due to aging....


41 posted on 06/01/2009 8:24:26 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Government needs a Keelhauling now and then.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Inside of geosync orbit, the orbit decays, outside and the object moves farther away.


42 posted on 06/01/2009 8:59:11 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: SunkenCiv

This is Obama’s fault.


43 posted on 06/01/2009 9:47:28 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: SunkenCiv
What is 'angular momentum' as used in this particular article?
44 posted on 06/01/2009 9:57:48 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The earth is getting bigger.


45 posted on 06/01/2009 10:08:19 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: SunkenCiv

Anybody that uses “prograde” in a sentence ought to be pants’d.


46 posted on 06/02/2009 7:10:17 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

That explains *my* day.


47 posted on 06/02/2009 4:03:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: ETL

I guess I can open the windows then. ;’)


48 posted on 06/02/2009 4:03:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: poindexter

Quite right, poindexter. Thanks.


49 posted on 06/02/2009 4:04:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: staytrue

Inside geosync, only if there’s atmosphere to slow it down.


50 posted on 06/02/2009 4:06:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: D Rider

Interesting, thanks!


51 posted on 06/02/2009 4:06:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: smokingfrog
Thanks. From wiki-wacky-pedia:
As an example of the Lense-Thirring effect consider the following:
Think of a satellite rotating around the earth. According to Newtonian Mechanics, if there are no external forces applied to the satellite but the gravitation force exerted by the earth, it will keep rotating in the same plane forever. This will be the case whether the earth rotates around its axis or not. But with General Relativity, we find that the rotation of the earth exerts a force to the satellite, so that the rotation plane of the satellite rotates, by a very small amount, in the same direction as the rotation of the earth.

52 posted on 06/02/2009 4:09:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Rudder

The Earth’s angular momentum is increasing by a tad, apparently continuously, meaning that some force is being applied to make it so.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/amom.html


53 posted on 06/02/2009 4:12:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Alec Baldwin eating taters at the home of Red_Devil 232

54 posted on 06/02/2009 4:13:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: a fool in paradise

Glad someone found my shopping list.


55 posted on 06/02/2009 4:14:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: razorback-bert
Doomed

56 posted on 06/02/2009 4:18:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv
the sun and Earth are gradually moving apart. It's not much -- just 15 cm per year...

In 1000 years that's 150 meters! There's only one solution. We have to stop the metric system NOW!

57 posted on 06/02/2009 4:19:39 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

Good idea!!!

Before the 1000 years are up, the measurements will be shown to be bogus. ;’) See, I like to make my own fun.


58 posted on 06/02/2009 4:25:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

look the moon causes a little bulge on the earth, since the earth turns faster than the moon rotates, the little bulge is always a little ahead of the moon and pulls the moon to speed up giving the moon more energy.

at geosync, the satellite and the bulge it creates stay in line with each other.

at less than geosync, the satellite goes faster than the earth is turning and the satellite is ahead of the bulge. the bulge pulls on the satellite slowing it down until it crashes.


59 posted on 06/03/2009 12:02:40 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue
look the moon causes a little bulge on the earth, since the earth turns faster than the moon rotates, the little bulge is always a little ahead of the moon and pulls the moon to speed up giving the moon more energy. at geosync, the satellite and the bulge it creates stay in line with each other.
Geostationary doesn't have anything to do with anything except that the satellite appears to hover over the same spot on the Earth's surface. That's all.

Here's something from "Ask an Astronomer":
It is not easy to estimate how far away from the Earth the Moon was when it formed, but simulations suggest is was about 3-5 times the radius of the Earth, or about 19-30 thousand km. (The Moon is currently about 384,000 km away from Earth or 3-4 thousand times further away than this.) The Moon probably couldn't have formed closer than 3 Earth radii because tidal forces from the Earth would just pull it apart again, and it is unlikely that the impact could have ejected material further than 5 Earth radii. [#699"]
Geosynchronous orbit is approximately 35,786 km.
60 posted on 06/03/2009 7:00:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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