Speaking of Orwellian, they even photograph and log photos, IPS, surfing history of our homes and businesses.
Posted on 08/23/2010 4:53:52 PM PDT by Swordmaker
Welcome to T-Mobile...;)
At least you can root your phone, get a custom ROM and go forward as you want. That’s quite a bit different than what you can do with other phones, and what the article was trying to infer.
Unfortuately for ol’ Larry, Google uses Java SE (which was released to the public domain, nothing Oracle can do about it) and they rolled their own VM. Other than sharing the name “Java”, there is no crossover between Google’s implementation and the proprietary ME engine that Oracle bought when they bought Sun.
Larry needs a new yacht, I guess, and is hoping for some sort of payoff!
Not without voiding my warranty which is quite similar to other phones. There are definite advantages to android, but it isn’t in any way far and away better than the iPhone.
One nice thing about a Mac is that when you buy one there is no bloatware (full disclosure there might not be on 2K PCs but I’ve never owned one) this is turning into one of the advantages of the iPhone over android. Another 100 would have been acceptable to pay to not have any unwanted apps.
Big problem is the 3G pipe can only carry only so much data.
Witness the advent of iPad 3G: the highly touted unlimited data plan stopped real quick when they realized how much data users would move.
Speaking of Orwellian, they even photograph and log photos, IPS, surfing history of our homes and businesses.
That's the problem. Apple controls iOS completely, and the iPhone hardware. There is a clear line there between Apple and the carrier. Things must be negotiated between the two. This is the new model that Apple created, breaking the carrier stranglehold, and the Android promised to follow.
But Android's openness turns out to be its Achilles heel. It gave complete control of the software back to the carriers, who are up to their old tricks again. For example, Verizon pushes the Amazon MP3 store, I can't delete that app from my Android phone if I want to stay stock and supported. Verizon gets a special section on the Market for me, and read all app descriptions carefully, because downloading and using many of them will automatically add $$$ to your bill. They're not back to the old ways yet, but they're heading in that direction, enabled by Android.
Modern Android phones are coming out locked just like the iPhone is. Remember, Google has shown it can and will revoke apps from your phone. So far it has done that only for fraudulent apps. So far.
No need to worry about having your warranty revoked because you want to open your phone's OS so you can use it.
See above about locked phones. If you change your phone to an unsupported configuration, you don't deserve warranty support. Producers carefully calculate warranties according to a specified set of operating criteria, and to ask them to support other criteria is unfair. I wouldn't expect Ford to honor the warranty on a custom stroked, bored and blown Mustang engine either.
No threat (since removed) of being sued because you dared unlock your phone so you could DO what YOU wanted to do.
No, they just threaten to sue all the sources of the complete Android OS that you can download from. Instead, you can legally get a substandard Android, stripped of most of the standard apps that it's known for. Oh yes, not all of Android is free, just the basic core system. All those cool apps that come with it are Google proprietary, the custom carrier user interfaces are carrier proprietary.
In fact, you have the source code to the OS - you can change the kernel, write and distribute applications and extensions as you desire.
Quite true, but that's a geek thing. It doesn't apply to the vast majority of buyers.
And you don't think Apple or AT&T don't do that as well?
Likewise Apple. However, Google only does that for apps in the Android Market; the other marketplaces, Google cannot touch.
Given that Android shipments are outstripping the iPhone, I think the majority of buyers are fine with Android. It's taking over the market, already having a larger marketshare than iOS, and extending that lead.
Wow! I guess people love ads, bloatware. Some people around here sure do ...
Jobs attempted to wow potential iAdvertisers with the claim that the platform could offer as many as a billion ad impressions per day. How does he arrive at that figure? It’s one ad delivered every three minutes across the average app usage time of 30 minutes per day, and then multiplied by 100 million devices...- Source
An ad every 3 minutes. A 1 billion ads a day (10+ ads per day per phone). Yeah, some people really love ads!
How about bloatware?
Seriously, though, you have the actual SOURCE to the OS; you can remove and reload what you want. And one man's bloatware is another man's must-have application. How do you get rid of unwanted default apps on the iPhone? CAN you get rid of unwanted default apps on the iPhone?
And it still doesn't change the fact that the original article was pure, unadulterated FUD.
And you don’t think Apple or AT&T don’t do that as well?
Your argument is now that two wrongs negate the fabulous Orwell diatribe.
On the contrary, with an open system I can block reporting, I can change things up, I can use different browsers. On a closed system, I can’t.
Both want to collect information on you; only one gives you the freedom to avoid that collection.
Let's look at the easily discovered facts, instead of your erroneous claims.
On the iPhone, iPod touch, and iPad, the iOS4 "closed system" that you imply does not allow a user to "change things up" and use a different browser, how come there are 30 browser apps from third parties available in the app store either for free or for a nominal cost including Opera, Mercury browser, Atomic Browser, several "privacy" browsers promising anonymity, a double page browser, a browser that shares a page with a notepad, Quick browser, and Anonymous Browser? Apparently you CAN "change things up" and run other browsers than Apple's default Safari on the iPhones and it's kin.
Erroneous, indeed? How many of those 'alternate' browsers are nothing more than reskins or extended versions of Safari? Because it seems that Apple doesn't really let you use something other than their browser engine. Hmmm... You can extend and skin their browser, but actually replace it? Seems that's not an option.
Oh, and can I take a look at the TCP stack, make sure stuff's not being sent back to Apple HQ? Can I run a block on all outbound traffic that's not on an approved port, and ensure that the block is functioning?
Seems you're the one being a bit erroneous, and loose with the facts...
Yes, erroneous. You are wrong. From your own year-and-a-half old, out-dated link:
I suspect that it’ll be a long time until Apple allows Firefox or Opera or any other true Safari rival onto the iPhone; I’d love to be proven wrong, though…
What was the very first browser I list in the alternative browsers available through the Apple app store? OPERA!
Again, as many times before, your own links prove you wrong! Why not READ your so called evidence before making your claims that I don't know what I'm talking about. I OWN THE PRODUCTS. YOU DON'T.
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