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Hydrocarbons in the deep earth (abiogenic)
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory ^ | April 14, 2011 | Anne M Stark

Posted on 04/15/2011 7:32:28 PM PDT by decimon

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A snapshot taken from a first-principles molecular dynamics simulation of liquid methane in contact with a hydrogen-terminated diamond surface at high temperature and pressure. The spontaneous formation of longer hydrocarbons are readily found during the simulations.
1 posted on 04/15/2011 7:32:30 PM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv; neverdem; thackney

Ping


2 posted on 04/15/2011 7:34:12 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

I knew it wasn’t ancient forests.


3 posted on 04/15/2011 7:36:14 PM PDT by aimhigh (True bitter clingers cling to their guns AND their bibles.)
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To: aimhigh
I knew it wasn’t ancient forests.

According to this it was.

4 posted on 04/15/2011 7:39:38 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

So much for “peak oil” and the dinosaur/plants—>oil theory. Jupiter’s moon, Titan, has lakes of methane and it never had dinosaurs and plants millions of years ago.


5 posted on 04/15/2011 7:40:03 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: decimon

"Do you smell oil?"

6 posted on 04/15/2011 7:40:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (If you don't see a leader, be a leader.)
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To: decimon
Nice to see the abiogenic reality is at least being explored. It mixes with ,and dissolves, fossils on the way up, hence the term fossil fuel. Multiple processes at work. Peak oil whining should restart in about 10-12 years.
7 posted on 04/15/2011 7:42:46 PM PDT by allmost
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When one considers the massive amounts of petroleum and related substances, and the variety of geologic formations involved, and the extreme depths in many cases, the biogenic theory is stretched to the breaking point. It just begins to flunk the smell test after awhile.
8 posted on 04/15/2011 7:55:06 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Multiple causes. “Gaia” wants us to burn it. :)
9 posted on 04/15/2011 8:29:30 PM PDT by allmost
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To: decimon

I always wondered how dead dinosaurs and prehistoric plants got two miles down anyway.


10 posted on 04/15/2011 8:54:33 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: decimon; 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; ...

Thanks decimon.
 
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11 posted on 04/15/2011 8:55:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I’m not as familiar with oil as I am with coal.

There is a continuum with coal. Peat to lignite to sub-bituminous to bituminous to anthracite.

There are massive areas of peat being formed in the world today, mostly in northern Russia and Canada. When it is eventually buried and compressed, it will begin to change into the higher grades of coal.

I have little knowledge of how the processes that supposedly forms oil and gas may vary.


12 posted on 04/15/2011 8:59:34 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: decimon

OMG! There are giant jacks floating in space!!


13 posted on 04/15/2011 8:59:44 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: decimon

Funny, the Russians have been telling us this for years, as well as OIL being Abiotic and from compressed minerals NOT FOSSIL Fuel,Ancient Algae.....


14 posted on 04/15/2011 9:26:57 PM PDT by eyeamok
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That was the comment I was about to make. The eastern block gave up on “fossil” fuel long ago. The refilling oil wells seem to agree with them. It is simply methane or carbon and hydrogen trapped in the earth’s core when the earth was formed.

Hydrogen is the most common element in the universe while carbon is a direct line element formed during chain nuclear fusion... like in a star...


15 posted on 04/15/2011 9:37:29 PM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: decimon

“The Kola borehole penetrated about a third of the way through the Baltic continental crust, estimated to be around 35 kilometres (22 mi) deep, reaching rocks of Archaean age (greater than 2.5 billion years old) at the bottom.[7] The project has been a site of extensive geophysical studies. The stated areas of study were the deep structure of the Baltic Shield; seismic discontinuities and the thermal regime in the Earth’s crust; the physical and chemical composition of the deep crust and the transition from upper to lower crust; lithospheric geophysics; and to create and develop technologies for deep geophysical study.

To scientists, one of the more fascinating findings to emerge from this well is that the change in seismic velocities was not found at a boundary marking Harold Jeffreys’s hypothetical transition from granite to basalt; it was at the bottom of a layer of metamorphic rock that extended from about 5 to 10 kilometers beneath the surface. The rock there had been thoroughly fractured and was saturated with water, which was surprising. This water, unlike surface water, must have come from deep-crust minerals and had been unable to reach the surface because of a layer of impermeable rock.[8]

Another unexpected discovery was the large quantity of hydrogen gas, with the mud flowing out of the hole described as “boiling” with hydrogen.[9]”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kola_Superdeep_Borehole
........................... FRegards


16 posted on 04/15/2011 11:05:05 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms .................. FRegards)
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To: decimon

Would be interesting to see what some of our ‘tapped out’ oil fields of today look like a few thousand or million years from now. I’d be willing to bet they would be as full as they were before we put a pipe into the ground.


17 posted on 04/15/2011 11:06:05 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: decimon
Paging Thomas Gold

There has never been any reason to beleive the Earth is any different from any other planet in having a large portion of its makeup being primordial methane. There is probably at least as much methane as there is water.

18 posted on 04/16/2011 4:21:55 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Napolean fries the idea powder.)
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To: decimon

Bump for later.


19 posted on 04/16/2011 10:08:29 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Paine in the Neck

That is a LOT of methane.


20 posted on 04/16/2011 10:31:15 AM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber thigns in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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