Deep history of coconuts decoded (Colonization of the Americas?)

Washington University in St. Louis ^ | June 24, 2011 | Diana Lutz

[freedumb2003]

>>. The “eyes” of the coconut quickly soak up seawater and that kills the seed. They can float long distances by sea but they won’t arrive alive.<<

Yeah, I misread part of the point — but I think there is some history of organic migration but not the long distances humans carry them.

[freedumb2003]

Missed that one COMPLETELY!!!

[SunkenCiv]

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[knarf]

[dfwgator]

"I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts."

Benny Hill: "You boasting again, are you?"

[constitutiongirl]

No, merely suggesting that they migrate.

[BIGLOOK]

Very popular here for local calls...

[Harold Shea]

Not exactly migration,but we have a coconut that my uncle
mailed back from Guadacanal during WW2 with the address to here and the letter was written on it..still quite legible

He passed away two years ago...pretty good Marine

[bunkerhill7]

Actually, ancient typhoons in the Pacific picked up whole coconut trees, swirled them upwards to 35,000 feet where the jet stream and El Nino deposited them in Peru where they were loaded onto llamas and sold at retail prices throughout South America. This is how the Incas got rich and established their empire.

Also pre-historic Pacific tsunamis pick up whole coastal beaches full of coconut groves and sent them all the way to Guatemala.

Also, pre-prehistoric pterodactyls also flew by island hopping the Pacific island chains, thereby establishing nests everywhere and feeding their baby pterodactyls lots of coconuts which they would break open with their powerful beaks. Sometimes they would uproot whole coconut trees, fly over the nest and shake off the coconuts into their baby pterodactyls` mouths.

[bigheadfred]

I didn’t read one mention of the possibility coconuts were spread by pterodactyls. Not one. Huuummmmpffff!!!

[decimon]

36,000 feet.

[Daffynition]

Spread by the USPS. You're a nut!

[Daffynition]

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

That plant went to a lot of trouble to make itself sexually attractive to monkeys.

[Condor51]

They also helped America through 'The Great Depression' by making people laugh for a while.

FDR's Great Depression not Obama's

[1010RD]

It is interesting the amount of intercultural contact and pre-Columbian trade that existed before Europeans ‘discovered’ the New World.

[decimon]

It is interesting the amount of intercultural contact and pre-Columbian trade that existed before Europeans ‘discovered’ the New World.

Not very long ago, Kon Tiki seemed a stretch. Now it seems that people were traveling everywhere by sea. Interesting stuff.

[Loud Mime]

There’s a LOAD of Python fans on FR. Never underestimate them.

[1010RD]

What I’ve found particularly surprising is the sudden new discoveries out of old sites and areas. You’d think the Med basin was well understood and that the “facts” about it were well established and sorted.

Is it just me or is the world or archeology awaking to the fact that humans moved in large groups, often and far?

[decimon]

You’d think the Med basin was well understood and that the “facts” about it were well established and sorted.

I don't know. Everything seems obvious once discovered.

I literally do not know one millionth of what people have done in this world over my lifetime. Or maybe that's one billionth. Yet I would know if I could what people have done over ten thousand years. Doesn't seem likely that I'm that capable.