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Stephanopoulos Gloats: Will My Interview With New Accuser 'Spell the End' for Cain?
MRC ^ | 12-1-11 | Scott Whitlock

Posted on 12/01/2011 8:56:54 AM PST by jmstein7

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To: DTxAg; An American!; DoctorBulldog; MNJohnnie
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/business-partner-ginger-white-mentioned-herman-cain/story?id=15047698#.TtfDjlZ58b0

Read it an weep Perrybot.

Maybe instead of spending all your time trying to suppress information favorable to Cain, you might spend you time more profitably telling us why we should vote for your choice instead.

21 posted on 12/01/2011 11:03:19 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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And the article it cites is at http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/business-partner-ginger-white-mentioned-herman-cain/story?id=15047698#.Ttadh7Ik67s

Sounds to me like White is jealous of her ex-lover’s preference for Black males...

So we’ve got a gal who didn’t meet her legal obligations to avoid a libel lawsuit so she was sued for libel and lost it without offering up any defense. The gal she libeled was her business partner and lesbian lover, and one of the things White said about her lover is that she preferred Black men. So we’ve got a gal who is willing to lie about somebody when she becomes jealous, and she seems to be jealous of Black men.

So now White has claimed that a Black man who is running for president had an affair with her during the same time that these 2 women were having a lesbian relationship which ended when White got jealous of her lover’s preference for Black men. White’s ex-lover says White never mentioned Cain during that time.

White says Cain gave her gifts. Cain says that his family helped her with her financial problems.

The tactic of the left is to lie boldly, because by the time the truth gets its shoes tied the lie will already have traveled the globe and done its damage. Incidentally, this is the same tactic used by lots of groups who have the money to handle lawsuits, such as the Islamists and scientologists. The goal isn’t to win lawsuits but to damage reputations of those who initially anger/threaten you, intimidate anybody who might think about angering you, and bankrupt those who fight your false accusations. For those purposes, the truth doesn’t matter, and lying holds no risk - as long as people believe the accusations could be true.

It’s reputational terrorism. Business as usual for the democrats. If we don’t find a way to defend ourselves from this tactic they will do this to everybody who potentially stands in their way.

The defense for this is for people to know the tactic and to totally blow off the accusations unless and until something is proven. Unfortunately, most of the public doesn’t have that kind of integrity. Those of us who do need to remind them that this is the standard play in the playbook of anybody who has lots of money to waste on manipulation of public perception. And that would be Obama.

I strongly suspect that Obama’s people offered White not only money but the promise of furthering the “gay rights” agenda if she got rid of the Black man who stands in Obama’s way.


22 posted on 12/01/2011 11:15:39 AM PST by butterdezillion
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You beat me to it. Do you notice that even the link to that story is opposite of what the story actually says though? Part of the URL is business-partner-ginger-white-mentioned-herman-cain But the story is that the business partner said Ginger White did NOT mention Herman Cain.

Ginger White is claiming that while Herman Cain was struggling with cancer, with his wife by his side almost constantly, White was doing both her lesbian lover and Cain. White never mentioned Cain but White’s lesbian lover apparently mentioned how much she prefers to do Black guys. So after retaliating to her lesbian lover by libeling her business reputation, White is dead broke again (or still maybe) and now she’s claiming it was really HER who was doing a Black guy on the side during the 13 years that these two gals were involved in a lesbian relationship. A Black guy who was in stage 4 cancer, with his wife by his side - but who is now the most serious challenge to Obama and his agenda.


23 posted on 12/01/2011 11:24:01 AM PST by butterdezillion
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The cover-up often gives everything away.


24 posted on 12/01/2011 11:25:46 AM PST by butterdezillion
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I’m sorry Johnnie, but you can remember your original post, right? The one where you said White was a lesbian. Where is that in the ABC story? There’s a huge difference between not telling a business partner you’re having an affair and not telling another person you’re sleeping with about an affair.


25 posted on 12/01/2011 11:30:23 AM PST by DTxAg
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Looking more closely at the wording, the article doesn’t say that White and Vay were lovers. I think it registered that way in my mind because the e-mail White sent talked about Vay liking to date Black men but making derogatory comments about Black women’s hair. That just doesn’t make sense to say in an e-mail where you’re claiming that a person has destroyed your business because they inject veterinary drugs before competing. Talking about who somebody likes to date, in an e-mail to city officials and business clients, seems sort of like the sexual harassment version of libel.

Anyway, I take back what I said. We don’t know what their personal relationship was about. Just like we don’t know what the personal relationship was about between White and Cain.

What person could receive a subpoena and still think the issue was all settled? This White seems clueless.


26 posted on 12/01/2011 11:59:52 AM PST by butterdezillion
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This is what caused the uproar...the original article from Examiner...I really hope Herman survives all of this...he is a figher (beat cancer) so hopefully he can pull through this...I remember when I was sure that Clinton was done, when he and Hillary admitted his problems early in the election cycle...and he pulled through and beat his opponents and finally Bush.

Report: Ginger White in lesbian affair while allegedly seeing Herman Cain

Spokane Conservative Examiner
November 30, 2011

The soap opera continues with a lesbian affair and a lawsuit for libel.

The swirl of allegations against GOP Presidential candidate Herman Cain has taken on the air of a daytime soap opera.

The latest twist in the story came from from ABC News' Laura Reddy on Tuesday.

According to Reddy, Ginger White, the woman who alleged having a 13-year-long extramarital affair with Herman Cain, was involved in a lesbian relationship with Kimberly Vay, her former business partner.

"His name has never come up," Vay said, while telling ABC she was involved in a love affair with White for 13 years - the same length of time White said she was involved with Cain.

The UK Daily Mail added:

Miss Vay is a competitive body builder and a behavioural health specialist who last year started No Limit Cycling with Ms White - in which the two women taught spin classes.

But somewhere along the way, their business relationship soured, with Miss Vay seeking a 'stalking protective order' after Ms White sent out a defamatory email about her in December, according to Miss Vay's lawyer, Kurt Martin.

When asked if she thought White's allegations were credible, Vay simply referred ABC to her attorney.

"When you see the details of my lawsuit," she said, "they will speak for themselves."

According to Reddy, Vay claimed White asked to end the partnership in November 2010, while the two mutually agreed to let White continue operating the business.

Reddy adds:

On December 9, according to the complaint, White sent a "defamatory" note to a master email list of the company's clients and to city officials. The email said that White's business had "come tumbling down [on] the day I invited Kim Vay into my life and my business" and that Vay had turned her "dream" into a "nightmare." According to the complaint, the email alleged that Vay, a competitive bodybuilder, injected veterinary drugs into her system prior to contests," and also said that Vay preferred to date black men but had made derogatory comments about black women's hair.

Vay's complaint termed the allegation about drug use "false, malicious, defamatory" and "reckless," and therefore libelous.

That lawsuit was settled out of court in April 2011, but Vay filed another lawsuit against White in June 2011, "claiming that White had failed to live up to the settlement and that she was entitled to sue for libel."

A default judgment was entered by a DeKalb County judge on Nov 3, 2011, when White did not respond to a subpoena or appear in court.

Later in November, White came forward with her claim against Herman Cain.

Reddy concludes:

During an interview with Atlanta Fox affiliate WAGA, White was asked about Vay's libel case. She said, "I admit it. Whatever happened with Kim and I happened." Her attorney told the station that White didn't respond to Vay's lawsuit because she though the dispute had already been settled.

Cain has characterized White as a "troubled" woman seeking fame, and although he acknowleged knowing White, he has steadfastly denied having an affair.  So far, White has produced nothing more than phone records to back up her claim.

At the very least, the lastest report should cause some to view her story with a Texas-sized grain of salt, especially considering the libel suit.

The question now is, will the Democrat-media complex give this story the same time it gave White's allegation, or will her claim be quietly forgotten?


27 posted on 12/01/2011 1:16:11 PM PST by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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