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If SHTF, Could You and Would You Shoot Someone?
Backdoor Survival ^ | Survivalwoman

Posted on 02/13/2012 7:41:48 PM PST by djf

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To: Salamander

My aunt passed away several years ago, she had a lot of health and mental issues over what happened to her, ended up divorcing her husband fairly soon after. I think somehow she blamed him for what happened- in the back of her mind at least. She did later in life find a wonderful man and was very happy with him for many years.


161 posted on 02/14/2012 11:20:10 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: djf

Thus far, I’ve made it through a half-century+ without shooting anyone, and I’d really like to keep it that way.

In my pre-soldiering days, I was fairly familiar with firearms.

Early in the soldiering phase of my life, I was out in the woods with a blank-loaded rifle, and lined-up the sights on someone a few hundred yards away.

Even not having any idea where the rifle was actually sighted-in at, and being loaded with blanks, and even if the rifle was properly sighted-in with real ammo, I probably couldn’t have made the shot anyway, it still gave me a creepy feeling pointing at another person.

If the time ever comes I perceive another person to be a threat to me or mine, and I’ve got the means to do so, I expect I’ll do what needs to be done.

In Claire Wolfe’s book “101 Things to do Until the Revolution”, one of the 101 is “Decide what you’re willing to kill for. Not what you’re willing to die for; what you’re willing to kill for”.


162 posted on 02/14/2012 11:46:39 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
With all due respect to Dr. Grossman, this doesn’t really apply in the case(s) that can be envisioned in the question on this post.

That is why I recommended the book. The example I gave is just that: an example.

The ability of "some" people to use deadly force was never at issue. The counter-intuitive percentage that will not, is.

163 posted on 02/14/2012 12:21:32 PM PST by papertyger
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To: djf
"I have struggled with the answer to these questions ...."

Nuff said...She and her family are as good as dead...

Darwinian theory at its best...Deadwood die off and more resources (food, gas, toilet paper,...) left for the remaining humans who are not willing to watch their loved ones slaughtered...

"Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground.
They want rain without thunder and lightening. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its waters.
This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did, and it never will. Find out just what a people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both.
The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.”

Frederick Douglass August 4, 1857

164 posted on 02/14/2012 2:16:36 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Steve Newton

I certainly believe that if my life were threatened I would shoot to kill.

I haven’t made it on this earth for three quarters of a century to be taken out by a bad guy.

OTOH, I live in a safe community, and I don’t go into bad neighborhoods.


165 posted on 02/14/2012 4:50:10 PM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: basil

Smile

Understood Sir


166 posted on 02/14/2012 5:44:29 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: djf

This is why women are not the front-line protectors of the family.

And in most instances, god bless the difference.

I would think reality would cause her to rethink the position. Once people did not give up trying to murder her.


167 posted on 02/15/2012 5:25:55 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Jonty30

Clearly she was not equating self-defense killing with having a murderer’s mentality and brutally murdering others.


168 posted on 02/15/2012 5:27:44 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

There are those of us who would kill another, if the SHTF, who claim that they would kill another person for so much as stepping on their property.

I was just saying that I couldn’t do that, but I would be able to defend my property from those that mean me harm.


169 posted on 02/15/2012 5:48:00 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30

If it sounded like I was saying something to you personally sorry about that. I was responding to the author of the piece. I too would agree with you that there would need to be more cause than just walking onto my lawn uninvited. But that act, though, in a shtf scenario, would definitely put me on guard and I would be suspicious and watch that person like a hawk.


170 posted on 02/15/2012 5:52:09 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I never take things personal.

I don’t let anybody hold me hostage to their opinion. :)

You and I are probably on the same wavelength on that point.

If it was really bad and they were running towards me, I might shoot them if they don’t follow my procedures to ensure mutual safety.


171 posted on 02/15/2012 5:55:56 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: AppyPappy

Me too! I had a couple of guns but someone stole them. I didn’t call the police... they just show up and fill out paperwork.


172 posted on 02/16/2012 2:14:05 PM PST by Humidston (For the first time in my adult life I FEAR my government.)
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