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DNA reveals details of the peopling of the Americas
Science News ^ | August 12, 2013 | Tina Hesman Saey

Posted on 09/02/2013 8:46:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

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subtitle, "Migrants came in three distinct waves that interbred once in the New World".
Interview with Professor Antonio Torroni of the University of Pavia | The Auramala Project

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1 posted on 09/02/2013 8:46:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 09/02/2013 8:47:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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3 posted on 09/02/2013 9:06:56 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: SunkenCiv
The mixture of first-wave and second-wave genetic signatures in some Native Americans today indicates that the newcomers and existing populations interbred.

Can we please not use the term Native American, especially when describing how they migrated here.

4 posted on 09/02/2013 9:10:33 AM PDT by FreeReign
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There was a fourth wave that was far larger and really populated North America.

The dominant Haplotype was R1B. The Atlantic Modal Haplotype.

But since that comes from Western Europe, I guess the Italian professor doesn’t want to talk about it.


5 posted on 09/02/2013 9:28:06 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: FreeReign

Pre-Columbian, hegemonic Occupiers.


6 posted on 09/02/2013 9:30:24 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: FreeReign
Can we please not use the term Native American, especially when describing how they migrated here

The proper term is of course aboriginal.

But knowing their own migration paths and timing, even that can be sketchy to use. They aren't really "indigenous", just earliest arrivals.

And the use of the reference word for Amerigo Vespucci to describe them borders on hilarious.

7 posted on 09/02/2013 9:31:14 AM PDT by Regulator
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So.....we have “Sovereign Nations” of Chinese within our borders. That’s racist and discriminatory. The French don’t have their own sovereign nations within our borders. I think it’s time we quit pulling their rickshaws and let them be Americans.


8 posted on 09/02/2013 9:36:24 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SunkenCiv

We are all immigrants.


9 posted on 09/02/2013 9:51:56 AM PDT by kabar
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To: FreeReign
Can we please not use the term Native American, especially when describing how they migrated here.

I use the term "Native American" because the term "Indian" is wildly inaccurate, and there is no accurate term by which to call them. "Native American" is the best among poor choices.

10 posted on 09/02/2013 10:05:15 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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What’s the source of the map? I’d like to see it with the explanation of the populations denoted by the letters.


11 posted on 09/02/2013 10:16:58 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Regulator

Aborigine: A member of the indigenous or earliest known population of a region

Which means of course that only the first-wave immigrants here discussed qualify. The second and third waves are no more aboriginal than the European fourth wave.


12 posted on 09/02/2013 10:50:59 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: Regulator

Aborigine: A member of the indigenous or earliest known population of a region

Which means of course that only the first-wave immigrants here discussed qualify. The second and third waves are no more aboriginal than the European fourth wave.


13 posted on 09/02/2013 10:51:29 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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I use the term "Native American" because the term "Indian" is wildly inaccurate

"Indian" is a morphing of "en Dios," the second half of what the Spanish missionaries called the continental inhabitants: "niños en Dios," meaning children in God.

"Native American" is the best among poor choices.

I would think that the best choice, though it will never catch on south of the Canadian border, is "First Nations," meaning the nations who were here first.

14 posted on 09/02/2013 11:27:56 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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The First Americans - The Windover Bog People
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15 posted on 09/02/2013 11:47:15 AM PDT by blam
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"I use the term "Native American" because the term "Indian" is wildly inaccurate, and there is no accurate term by which to call them. "Native American" is the best among poor choices. "

How about Paleo-Americans.

There are no humans native to the Americas...everybody migrated here.

16 posted on 09/02/2013 11:52:00 AM PDT by blam
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Columbus thought he had reached "the Indies," so he called the natives "indios." I believe the Spanish government continued to refer to the Americas as the Indies for centuries thereafter. There is a trace of that in English with the terms "West Indies" and "East Indies" (reflecting the earlier use of "Indies" to mean East Asia).

The "en Dios" version sounds like a later invention.

17 posted on 09/02/2013 11:58:36 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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Good point. And a large percentage of them are native Americans, having been born in America.


18 posted on 09/02/2013 2:27:58 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: exDemMom
"Native American" is the best among poor choices.

How about "Amerindian"? Still has lot of syllables though.

Personally, I like "NDN".

19 posted on 09/02/2013 2:52:51 PM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Regulator
They aren't really "indigenous", just earliest arrivals.

That's right. Just like the rest of us, they're the descendants of immigrants.

In reality, with the possible exception of West Africa, every nation in the world is populated by people whose ancestors came from somewhere else. We're all "nations of immigrants."

20 posted on 09/02/2013 4:14:30 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon.)
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